AFL Game Day R5 2023 - Gather Round

[jeemak]

People don't like already privileged people behaving like entitled wankers, which if you believe the stories of his behaviour at Norf, is what he acted like.

So in that sense I get it.

But, those very same people are prone to behaving like entitled wankers. They feel they're entitled to denigrate others for their own amusement.

Commentators are quick to call out this terrible victimisation of him, but in reality many of those same commentators were ripping into him via their privileged positions in the media like entitled wankers.

So in summary if everyone just stopped acting like entitled wankers the rest of us would all be able to get on with things.

[Grantysghost]

People don't like already privileged people behaving like entitled wankers, which if you believe the stories of his behaviour at Norf, is what he acted like.

So in that sense I get it.

But, those very same people are prone to behaving like entitled wankers. They feel they're entitled to denigrate others for their own amusement.

Though does it really mean anything though? Does JHF really care about random people in the crowd? Commentators are quick to call out this terrible victimisation of him, but in reality many of those same commentators were ripping into him via their privileged positions in the media like entitled wankers.

So in summary if everyone just stopped acting like entitled wankers the rest of us would all be able to get on with things.

Are we entitled wankers if we use forums to call out the entitled wankers calling out the entitled wankers booing the entitled wanker?

It sounded better in my head

[Dry Rot]

Anyone else see the leak of the radical game plan Brad Scott is employing at the Dons?

How Scott is using his players is instructive, too, of the longer-term goal.

Save for Kyle Langford, who is having a strong campaign as an effective Mr. Fix-It, Scott has settled his players in their best positions. Andrew McGrath has been much more effective as a half-back, and his exit has opened up more midfield time for others.

Can we learn from this?

[jeemak]

Anyone else see the leak of the radical game plan Brad Scott is employing at the Dons?



Can we learn from this?

If that's the thing that stops our midfielders from checking out at different times of the game, then absolutely!

[Grantysghost]

It's round 5 and Essendon have won the flag again.

Happens every year.

[jazzadogs]

Agreed.

Why would say a Dogs fan boo him? It's nonsense.

Let's not underestimate the number of non-Port supporting South Australian 'neutrals' who would have been at the game. I can't see any reason that a Bulldogs supporter would boo him - but I can see a world where a South Australian who has spent all summer reading and hearing about how much of a coup he is would be frustrated.

Does that frustration mean the booing is reasonable? No...but it helps it make some sort of sense.

[FrediKanoute]

I don't get the angst about booing and I definitely don't buy the argument that he's just a kid.

Whilst I don't particularly care that he left North and went home, I do get why some people would be annoyed with him - an entitled kid who didn't want to play by the rules.......At least Rankine waited a couple of seasons before he exited the Suns!

JHF - from all reports acted like a spoilt child when he was at Nth and showed the club a lot of disrespect. Good player or not. Kid or not respect for the jumper/club is important.

If he's old enough to sign a deal; old enough to say no to a new deal; old enough to demonstrably disrespect the fans then he is old enough to be booed.

If as a fan you cannot go to a football game and boo who you want then something is wrong.

[GVGjr]

I don't get the angst about booing and I definitely don't buy the argument that he's just a kid.

Whilst I don't particularly care that he left North and went home, I do get why some people would be annoyed with him - an entitled kid who didn't want to play by the rules.......At least Rankine waited a couple of seasons before he exited the Suns!

JHF - from all reports acted like a spoilt child when he was at Nth and showed the club a lot of disrespect. Good player or not. Kid or not respect for the jumper/club is important.

If he's old enough to sign a deal; old enough to say no to a new deal; old enough to demonstrably disrespect the fans then he is old enough to be booed.

If as a fan you cannot go to a football game and boo who you want then something is wrong.

I don't think anyone is saying you shouldn't boo but outside of North supporters I don't really get why other supporters would target JHF. Good luck to anyone if that's their thing.

But it does beg the question if a 19yo footballer is fair game for adults to boo then why a supporter in the off season doing a parody of Greta Thundberg's catch cry of "how dare you" isn't regarded as a good look.
I'm not sure I agree with a concept that its better to bully or ridicule than parody.

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showth...8-How-Dare-You

[hujsh]

I don't think anyone is saying you shouldn't boo but outside of North supporters I don't really get why other supporters would target JHF. Good luck to anyone if that's their thing.

But it does beg the question if a 19yo footballer is fair game for adults to boo then why a supporter in the off season doing a parody of Greta Thundberg's catch cry of "how dare you" isn't regarded as a good look.
I'm not sure I agree with a concept that its better to bully or ridicule than parody.

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showth...8-How-Dare-You

That's some top level snitching there.

But I think if you just read the two posts Fredi has already explained the stances well enough no? Do you honestly need him to break down the differences between those two cases?

[GVGjr]

That's some top level snitching there.

But I think if you just read the two posts Fredi has already explained the stances well enough no? Do you honestly need him to break down the differences between those two cases?

Fredi always gives good reasons and I closed the How dare you thread on the strength of his response. Having recently stumbled across that thread again and then reading his response to booing I just thought it was inconsistent.
After hearing the impact to JUH with the racial slurs and taunts, the impact of the booing of Goodes I think it's time to consider if targeted booing is still appropriate.

[hujsh]

Fredi always gives good reasons and I closed the How dare you thread on the strength of his response. Having recently stumbled across that thread again and then reading his response to booing I just thought it was inconsistent.
After hearing the impact to JUH with the racial slurs and taunts, the impact of the booing of Goodes I think it's time to consider if targeted booing is still appropriate.

I think you know the difference between these and JHF too. I get the similarities but that's just surface level. We can talk about if booing is appropriate but these comparisons are like trying to compare calling someone a cracker vs A*o to say all slurs are bad.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

This next generation coming through are really an entitled lot.

They expect to be able to do what they want without repercussions. It's not one bit surprising given they've grown up doing exactly what they want and no one is allowed to tell them no or provide decent discipline. You only have to walk into a school to see how that's playing out.

I don't think the current environment is building any kind of resilience amongst our kids today. There's overstepping the mark, discrimination etc but then there's things like this. He's entitled to do what he wants to ge to Port, but he can't expect north fans not to boo him given what he did to them. Why neutral fans would boo him is beyond me but there's really only been 1 match with solid evidence of that yeah?

[hujsh]

This next generation coming through are really an entitled lot.

They expect to be able to do what they want without repercussions. It's not one bit surprising given they've grown up doing exactly what they want and no one is allowed to tell them no or provide decent discipline. You only have to walk into a school to see how that's playing out.

I don't think the current environment is building any kind of resilience amongst our kids today. There's overstepping the mark, discrimination etc but then there's things like this. He's entitled to do what he wants to ge to Port, but he can't expect north fans not to boo him given what he did to them. Why neutral fans would boo him is beyond me but there's really only been 1 match with solid evidence of that yeah?

Mr. Rogan, has JHF actually complained or are you conflating him with your perception of younger people and the media coverage defending him?

More seriously and pointless inter-generational culture warfare aside I've not actually seen him speak out against the booing. Hinkley has condemned it, the some media has as well, Jason just played a game of football.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Mr. Rogan, has JHF actually complained or are you conflating him with your perception of younger people and the media coverage defending him?

More seriously and pointless inter-generational culture warfare aside I've not actually seen him speak out against the booing. Hinkley has condemned it, the some media has as well, Jason just played a game of football.

Why all the uproar if he doesn't have a problem with it?

Pointless inter-generational culture warfare.....that's a good one

[hujsh]

Why all the uproar if he doesn't have a problem with it?

Pointless inter-generational culture warfare.....that's a good one

It was always going to be brought up for discussion in the media once he was booed. Especially since there's some confusion around who exactly was booing him. Former players get booed all the time but 'was he booed by neutrals?' is something to fill time on TV and inches in newspapers.