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    Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions.

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    Premiership player Liam Picken has launched civil action against the AFL, Western Bulldogs and club doctors after he says he was returned to the field despite suffering on-field concussions.

    Lawyers for Picken claim throughout his time with the Bulldogs, the 36-year-old repeatedly returned irregular cognitive test results, but was never made aware of these or sent for specialist management.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    This isn't going to be pretty given what's been alleged by the Picken camp.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Terrible Liam is still suffering serious symptoms. Still young and with a lovely young family. Some serious allegations for our club and our esteemed club doctors.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    This isn't going to be pretty given what's been alleged by the Picken camp.
    Agree. Could have seen it coming from a mile away tbh. I reckon he has a case to be paid attention to - I’m not a lawyer.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    It's going to be a huge issue for the AFL and it's not right that someone like Picken is still feeling the effects.
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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Obvious statement, if he has a case then he deserves fair compensation.

    You’d like to think the club would not have done the specific things alleged. I guess we will have our right of reply and see where it lands.

    More importantly, got to just feel for the human cost Liam is paying for giving us years of amazing memories.
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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Obvious statement, if he has a case then he deserves fair compensation.

    You’d like to think the club would not have done the specific things alleged. I guess we will have our right of reply and see where it lands.

    More importantly, got to just feel for the human cost Liam is paying for giving us years of amazing memories.
    Spot on, we've come a long way with concussion protocols in the last few years but there would be a number of players with ongoing symptoms and challenges. I'm not sure how this gets resolved but I hope the AFL has some plans on how to look after the players.
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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Spot on, we've come a long way with concussion protocols in the last few years but there would be a number of players with ongoing symptoms and challenges. I'm not sure how this gets resolved but I hope the AFL has some plans on how to look after the players.
    I suspect the answer is a huge amount of money. How much the AFEL end up on the hook for could be interesting. A club under a series of lawsuits might find their viability threatened.

    It’s a tough spot for the club. If the club feels they’ve done nothing wrong they need to fight this to the end as hard as they can. Which is hard for everyone when it’s a club hero especially. For fans, it’s like watching your parents go through a horrible divorce.
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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    I suspect the answer is a huge amount of money. How much the AFEL end up on the hook for could be interesting. A club under a series of lawsuits might find their viability threatened.

    It’s a tough spot for the club. If the club feels they’ve done nothing wrong they need to fight this to the end as hard as they can. Which is hard for everyone when it’s a club hero especially. For fans, it’s like watching your parents go through a horrible divorce.
    You would hope that the medico's worked within the guidelines at the time and that we have documented records of our decisions.
    Player welfare is the priority.
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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    You would hope that the medico's worked within the guidelines at the time and that we have documented records of our decisions.
    Player welfare is the priority.
    That's the issue. What were the guidelines? It only seems like a few years ago it was still just walk it off and go back out on the ground. I can guarantee there would be countless doctors overruled because a player just wants to get back out there. Picken would have been one of those. If a Dr says no and you say yes why is it the Docs fault?

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Liam deserves compensation IF it was deemed the rules at the time weren't adhered to or appropriate.

    However, there has to be some personal responsibility; he was hardly a safety first kind of player.

    I get we laud that in our game and all - sheesh though he was a mad man.

    Tough situation for fans. Feel for him.

    Marcus Adams in a similar situation I read.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mo77 View Post
    That's the issue. What were the guidelines? It only seems like a few years ago it was still just walk it off and go back out on the ground. I can guarantee there would be countless doctors overruled because a player just wants to get back out there. Picken would have been one of those. If a Dr says no and you say yes why is it the Docs fault?
    It's a good point, I played (very badly) in the 90s and copped a few concussions (yes, yes it explains a few things), we'd just sit on the bench.
    I was seeing double one day, played out the game then went to the hospital. Played better

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    This is about one thing, money. This is Pandora's box for the AFL. It has the potential to bring the game to its knees.

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    It's a good point, I played (very badly) in the 90s and copped a few concussions (yes, yes it explains a few things), we'd just sit on the bench.
    I was seeing double one day, played out the game then went to the hospital. Played better
    I took a few as well, only once I stopped playing and it was because my vision was messed up. Mind you we didn't really have Doctors in the bush league. They'd just say you probably shouldn't go back on and everyone would say I'm fine and be back out there 5 - 10 minutes later.

    I'm not sure where I sit with this to be honest. If Liam didn't play the way he did he wouldn't have been an AFL footballer, now he's suing them and the club he played for because of the way he played?

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    Re: Former Bulldog Liam Picken launches legal action against AFL, club, doctors after concussions

    I hope the club did the right things by Liam but if not he deserves compensation. Huge precedent for the future if the case goes ahead.

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