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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    IN: Cleary, Khamis, McComb, McNeil
    OUT: Darcy, Keath, Macrae, Williams
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Gardiner back isn’t going to help, he joins the long queue of players that can’t hit a target.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Out - Darcy, West
    In - Buku, JJ

    Would throw the magnets around a bit too - Macrae off half back with Caleb playing on ball. Dale to half forward and JJ to half back. Buku playing third key forward.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post

    Would throw the magnets around a bit too - Macrae off half back with Caleb playing on ball. Dale to half forward and JJ to half back. Buku playing third key forward.
    What makes you think that Macrae can be serviceable as a defender?

    I also can't see how adding another midfielder who played wide of his opponent in Daniel helps us? what do you see?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    OUT- Anti-defence footy strategy. Players names I could list 18 players.

    IN- Actual defence & can we find where desire has gone & get it back in the squad.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by F'scary View Post
    Just sad to see how far Macrae has fallen. They couldn't even hide him on the bench tonight.
    Macrae has had a lot of head knocks over the years maybe its starting to catch up with him.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    What makes you think that Macrae can be serviceable as a defender?

    I also can?t see how adding another midfielder who played wide of his opponent in Daniel helps us? what do you see?
    Not much.

    You're 100% right - there's not much logic behind either move, but not sure there's much alternative either except finding another viable role for the second part of their careers.

    Daniel is less dramatic than Macrae but I think he and Dale have been figured out off half back and his ball use has been putrid. He has exposed form as a mid at under-18 level and we're light on through there without Dunkley and Trelouar. Ball use coming out of the back half has been awful - I'd like to see us change up the personnel and have a different look at running defenders - whether that's JJ or Cleary. I still think there's a bit of footy left in Caleb and the class he had two or three years ago would be useful in a poorly-skilled midfield.

    Macrae has four more years on a contract that probably puts him in the top 5 well-paid players at the club. I think you could excuse the second part of 2022 as a slump, but now it's looking like he's about dusted as an AFL player. I think he's too slow to play forward, he's stinking up the midfield, so what else do you do with him except send him back to Footscray or play him off half back? Matt Boyd was a similar midfield accumulator (albeit he started his career as an accountable mid/defender) who I thought was no chance at making it off half back at the latter stages of his career, but it reinvigorated him. When he is playing well, I think Jack's intelligence and agility would be handy coming out of defense, and he has done bits and pieces of tagging in the past (I'm definitely stretching here).

    Both moves driven more by necessity than evidence, but things are starting to feel dire, so I'd be changing it up rather than continuing down the same path.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    We need to make some changes to the side and some changes to the roles folks are playing. I?d start by:

    Out: Macrae, Daniel, McLean, West, Keath, Darcy

    In: McNeil, Cleary, Buku, JJ, Arty, Sweet

    Then I would line a side up like follows:

    B: Duryea, Jones, Cleary
    HB: Dale, Bruce, Richards
    C: Scott, Libba, Bont
    HF: Williams, Naughton, Arty
    F: McNeil, Marra, Sweet
    R: English, Garcia, Smith
    B: Baker, Crozier, JJ, McComb

    Bont on a wing as he?s the only player we have who can hit a target and one of few who?ll work hard up and down in both directions. Let?s let him do that and not also get smashed as our best contested ball player.
    Garcia and Smith in the midfield with Libba. Smith needs to kick the footy better and use his pace defensively but hoping to offset some of our defensive weakness with Garcia starting in there.
    Cleary straight into the backline, Will be an instant gain in Keath as can use the ball better and defensively just as good if not better than 2023 Keath
    Arty straight in, need some wheels and dash and excitement, just about the only player we have with the creative agility
    Williams playing a similar role running up and down but named as a forward.
    McNeil to tackle tackle tackle and run hard (unsure if he?s right?)
    Sweet not a forward but can?t have less of an impact that Darce did last night (and I still rate King Darce as one of our most exciting talents, but we need to settle a position, play him there in the VFL for 4 weeks and then bring him back once he?s got his swagger back)
    JJ to play back, Crozier to play forward, McComb at least has some pace and could tag Dunks/Neale, and Baker keeps his spot just.

    It?s slim pickings. Gardner and Weightman straight in when available. And would then look to move Bruce forward again.

    Ergh.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    I don't think it matters. I said this last week, we are done. We've been overtaken and don't have the cattle on and off the field to compete. It's time to rebuild now and work on bringing young players through. Sack this coach ASAP and start the process for building around a new coach, new team in 2024.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Dogs View Post
    We need to make some changes to the side and some changes to the roles folks are playing. I?d start by:


    B: Duryea, Jones, Cleary
    HB: Dale, Bruce, Richards
    C: Scott, Libba, Bont
    HF: Williams, Naughton, Arty
    F: McNeil, Marra, Sweet
    R: English, Garcia, Smith
    B: Baker, Crozier, JJ, McComb
    Not bad. Obviously need to do something that Brisbane is not expecting.

    But I would begin with English as CHB, Bruce as a forward, and Sweet as First ruck, smith on the wing and Bont taking his position.

    Why?

    Brisbane have 2 confident tall forwards. Need English?s skills to complement Jones.

    I?ve been pleasantly surprised by Bruce this year, but most of the team has played with him as a forward. See if they can rediscover how to work with him. I think this would help McNeil to be more effective.

    Some of Bont,s good games have been with Sweet rucking. They link well and it might open up his ability to run and deliver. Bont has been doing too much heavy work lately.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    I'm not not convinced we should move our best key back over the first two weeks out of the backline. I'm also not convinced that English can keep up with Hipwood or Daniher in that role.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    How I would go

    In:
    Lobb and Adz (if fit)
    McNeil
    McComb (starting)

    Out:
    Darcy (develop in VFL)
    Marra (taking time away from club)
    West (if he isn't attending CBAs, there isn't a spot for him)
    Truck

    If Lobb is out, I'd play Buku
    If Adz is out, I'd play Truck.

    With Macrae, I would only have him out if the club believe he is actually truly sulking/not putting in effort.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    How I would go

    In:
    Lobb and Adz (if fit)
    McNeil
    McComb (starting)

    Out:
    Darcy (develop in VFL)
    Marra (taking time away from club)
    West (if he isn't attending CBAs, there isn't a spot for him)
    Truck

    If Lobb is out, I'd play Buku
    If Adz is out, I'd play Truck.

    With Macrae, I would only have him out if the club believe he is actually truly sulking/not putting in effort.
    Why McComb? I personally don't rate him at all.

    I would think about Cleary coming in if Truck is out.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    Out - Darcy, West
    In - Buku, JJ

    Would throw the magnets around a bit too - Macrae off half back with Caleb playing on ball. Dale to half forward and JJ to half back. Buku playing third key forward.
    Macrae has zero overhead game, including spoiling. Could not possibly play in the defence.
    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 3 V Brisbane Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Why McComb? I personally don't rate him at all.

    I would think about Cleary coming in if Truck is out.
    McComb due to really low benchmark I have to get into the side to improve hardness and run (I know).

    Cleary I like a lot but we have Juice, Jones, Keath and Crozier already down back. Think Cleary is more a D3-4 type and we need more run.

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