Sharp Axes

[bulldogtragic]

Were expectations realistic? We've had issues with our list for years, how many finals series and grand finals did we seriously expect to make in lieu of that?

I get the frustration with him, but we've got club level issues beyond Luke Beveridge. List management and recruitment being one of them.

My comment is more umbrella. The world was our oyster in 2016. And like the movie Casino, we had it all and then we ****ed it all up.

[whythelongface]

My comment is more umbrella. The world was our oyster in 2016. And like the movie Casino, we had it all and then we ****ed it all up.

Even our list in 2016 wasn’t that great. Hindsight is wonderful but Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Dahlhaus and a few others really wasn’t anything special. We played a month of exceptional footy that was it. I had high expectations but other teams were better and we just ended being mediocre

[bulldogtragic]

Even our list in 2016 wasn’t that great. Hindsight is wonderful but Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Dahlhaus and a few others really wasn’t anything special. We played a month of exceptional footy that was it. I had high expectations but other teams were better and we just ended being mediocre

We had a glut of AA players. Couldn’t form them into a side though. Either way, rebuild or live in Groundhog Day.

[macca]

Even our list in 2016 wasn?t that great. Hindsight is wonderful but Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Dahlhaus and a few others really wasn?t anything special. We played a month of exceptional footy that was it. I had high expectations but other teams were better and we just ended being mediocre

We had a hard edge to our team. The Cordy knee was working to timing perfection. Picken and Clay Smith were tackling and trapping the ball forward.

Plenty of depth in VFL, Jongy and Suckling were back from injury

[SonofScray]

We simply have to make a change and the sooner, the better. My fair minded view is we call it at the end of the year, regardless of what happens. Top 4 is gone now, that was my expectation, that would have been the requisite improvement. My less than fair minded view is that every day since the final siren of R2 has been a day wasted.

It’ll disrupt things and there’s a risk we go backwards, but at the moment we’ve got a capable group who are losing in predictable ways, have offered the league a clear blue print for how to beat us and also actively taking steps to help them out by inaccurate, in efficient goal kicking.

There’s been nothing about us, even in the run of good form that has fanned the embers of hope. No one is doing anything special. Nothing to inspire belief in the fans.

[FrediKanoute]

We are a game and % outside the top 4 (yes the Lions have a game in hand). Its not time to throw in the towel just yet.

I said at the start of the season that we will do as well as the match committee allows us to do. Balance - the sides from Round 2 up to Round 9/10 had balance. injuries and selections to replace those injuries has f*cked up the balance. Get the balance back between run and height.

[Bulldog Joe]

Maybe we have over rated our list over the years and we aren?t actually that good. Our list seems to have some very good players but lots of average ones as well. I don?t think we have underperformed- we just aren?t that good.

We keep making excuses.

Is it that we don't believe in ourselves and feel more comfortable making up the numbers.

The coach is responsible for the game plan and player buy in to that.

Why haven't we developed and maintained a plan that suits the list.

We blame the midfielders for not defending, but they must also be frustrated by the lack of forward cohesion.

Why does our plan have every forward attacking the same aerial contest?

Why do we continually clog our own forward space and give that space to the opposition on turnover?

[SonofScray]

The axe is back out and I am prepared to swing it now.

Seen enough. The talent is there. The belief isn’t.

[angelopetraglia]

The axe is back out and I am prepared to swing it now.

Seen enough. The talent is there. The belief isn’t.

Do you think we have the same talent as Port in the midfield. I don't.

Boak. Wines. JHF. Rozee. Butters. >>>>>>>>> Bont. Libba. Smith. Treloar. Macrae.

I would take Port's midfield. Every day and twice on Sunday.

[jeemak]

The axe is back out and I am prepared to swing it now.

Seen enough. The talent is there. The belief isn?t.

Get your endorphin release, go for it. Just don't ask what we do next once it's done.

What's the next thing you'd do after you swung the axe? Put Lade in charge? Pad out the rest of the year and try and improve the draft position, essentially going tits up and signally a rebuild or hoping for a Craig Macrae to pop up - whilst fearing a Mark Neeld might?

Does a new coach kick Marra's and Lobb's first quarter chances for them? Jacko seems to be able to slot goals when he has a chance, reckon that's pure skill, or the coach's messages getting through to him, or do you reckon he's a pro that takes responsibility for his output and skill level?

Matthias Corman has a message and question for you:

https://fb.watch/l2XYVWOD7T/

Will you know what to do, or will you be wibble wobble wibble wobble jelly on a plate?

[bornadog]

Get your endorphin release, go for it. Just don't ask what we do next once it's done.

What's the next thing you'd do after you swung the axe? Put Lade in charge? Pad out the rest of the year and try and improve the draft position, essentially going tits up and signally a rebuild or hoping for a Craig Macrae to pop up - whilst fearing a Mark Neeld might?

Does a new coach kick Marra's and Lobb's first quarter chances for them? Jacko seems to be able to slot goals when he has a chance, reckon that's pure skill, or the coach's messages getting through to him, or do you reckon he's a pro that takes responsibility for his output and skill level?

Matthias Corman has a message and question for you:

https://fb.watch/l2XYVWOD7T/

Will you know what to do, or will you be wibble wobble wibble wobble jelly on a plate?

Much easier to blame the coach and not have a solution.

I don't mind posters having a go at coaches and players, but what I would love is a solution to our problems, and I mean a solution right now as you say. Who comes, in? How do we change our game plan, who do we move around, etc etc.

I haven't seen the last 3 games, but from stats, I can see we have alot of the ball. We had 70 more disposals and smashed them at Stoppages yet we lost.

Problems/Suggested solutions

* I don't think we can play Keath, Bruce and Jones as big backs. Play Two only and bring in a Cleary or Crozier type (till Richards is back)

* Arty and JOD need to go back to VFL and learn their trade.

* We have to re think JUH, Naughton and Lobb's roles. Naughton to move up the ground to CHF, and make Lobb the main FF and JUH his assistant till he gets stronger and more mature.

* We have to stop bombing the ball into the 50.

* We need to take our chances and move the ball quickly through the corridor.

* The mids are getting plenty of the ball and creating opportunities up forward, but we aren't captialising

[jeemak]

Much easier to blame the coach and not have a solution.

I don't mind posters having a go at coaches and players, but what I would love is a solution to our problems, and I mean a solution right now as you say. Who comes, in? How do we change our game plan, who do we move around, etc etc.

I haven't seen the last 3 games, but from stats, I can see we have alot of the ball. We had 70 more disposals and smashed them at Stoppages yet we lost.

Problems/Suggested solutions

* I don't think we can play Keath, Bruce and Jones as big backs. Play Two only and bring in a Cleary or Crozier type (till Richards is back)

* Arty and JOD need to go back to VFL and learn their trade.

* We have to re think JUH, Naughton and Lobb's roles. Naughton to move up the ground to CHF, and make Lobb the main FF and JUH his assistant till he gets stronger and more mature.

* We have to stop bombing the ball into the 50.

* We need to take our chances and move the ball quickly through the corridor.

* The mids are getting plenty of the ball and creating opportunities up forward, but we aren't captialising

Sorry, I'm sure they're fine points you're making but I keep re-watching and getting mesmerised by the Matthias Corman clip about jelly on a plate - and I forget them.

[bornadog]

Sorry, I'm sure they're fine points you're making but I keep re-watching and getting mesmerised by the Matthias Corman clip about jelly on a plate - and I forget them.

Very Funny

[SonofScray]

Step him down, put Lade in for the remainder of the season. Go through the process.

I’ve not wobbled once.

[JanLorMill]

Do you think we have the same talent as Port in the midfield. I don't.

Boak. Wines. JHF. Rozee. Butters. >>>>>>>>> Bont. Libba. Smith. Treloar. Macrae.

I would take Port's midfield. Every day and twice on Sunday.

Why does one no add the ruck when quoting the midfield as he is an integral part?
English is way more talented than Lycett but that?s not the problem. Also Bont at 100% is better than anyone at port. Wines and Boak are aging but experienced and still very hard at it. Smith is talented but way off displaying it.