What - the glass is half full??!

[Grantysghost]

Never under Bevo.

I’d hazard a guess at 2010.

[jeemak]

Jackie Chiles!!


Edit: When did we last finish top 4? My memory fails me. Under Bevo though?

2017 was an extremely disappointing year, and while we made the grand final in 2021 I think we really let ourselves down by not keeping our minds in it in the last few rounds. They were the big chances to make top four for mine.

I still can't figure out last year, but there's enough murmurings out and about that things among the players were all but cooked.

Winning 15 games in 2016 with the injuries we had was a magnificent effort and that used to be a sufficient number to get you into the top four anyway.

Not making excuses, other than to say it's bloody hard to get into the top four and it's getting harder each year.

[bulldogtragic]

2017 was an extremely disappointing year, and while we made the grand final in 2021 I think we really let ourselves down by not keeping our minds in it in the last few rounds. They were the big chances to make top four for mine.

I still can't figure out last year, but there's enough murmurings out and about that things among the players were all but cooked.

Winning 15 games in 2016 with the injuries we had was a magnificent effort and that used to be a sufficient number to get you into the top four anyway.

Not making excuses, other than to say it's bloody hard to get into the top four and it's getting harder each year.

Fair point Jackie. But how with the players we’ve had since 2010 have we not done it? Seems quirky.

[jeemak]

Fair point Jackie. But how with the players we’ve had since 2010 have we not done it? Seems quirky.

Well I guess what I'm saying is we should have in 2016/2017 all things being equal, but after that we rebuilt and were as good as anyone outside of a few games at the end of 2021 and that was that. We missed out.

Last year was a shit show.

As supporters we want it both ways. We want to be able to shit on the coaching, the recruiting, the personnel, yet at the same time we want to shit on the club for not making top four every year whilst ignoring that other clubs might also be good.

It's what makes footy great. The irrational hopes and beliefs of supporters are literally the only thing keeping the Ponzi scheme afloat!

[bornadog]

Well I guess what I'm saying is we should have in 2016/2017 all things being equal, but after that we rebuilt and were as good as anyone outside of a few games at the end of 2021 and that was that. We missed out.

Last year was a shit show.

As supporters we want it both ways. We want to be able to shit on the coaching, the recruiting, the personnel, yet at the same time we want to shit on the club for not making top four every year whilst ignoring that other clubs might also be good.

It's what makes footy great. The irrational hopes and beliefs of supporters are literally the only thing keeping the Ponzi scheme afloat!

We did stuff up in 2021 with the last few rounds, but ended up outside the 4 by .01%(something) or another goal would have pushed us into 4th

[jeemak]

We did stuff up in 2021 with the last few rounds, but ended up outside the 4 by .01%(something) or another goal would have pushed us into 4th

Or 23 less seconds on the clock up north! Which was totally fine and definitely not worth worrying about.

[GVGjr]

Fair point Jackie. But how with the players we’ve had since 2010 have we not done it? Seems quirky.

Didn't you used to call Greystache Ricky?

[bulldogtragic]

Didn't you used to call Greystache Ricky?

Yep! He was actually Rick Astley. A little known fact…

Great memory.

[Grantysghost]

2017 was an extremely disappointing year, and while we made the grand final in 2021 I think we really let ourselves down by not keeping our minds in it in the last few rounds. They were the big chances to make top four for mine.

I still can't figure out last year, but there's enough murmurings out and about that things among the players were all but cooked.

Winning 15 games in 2016 with the injuries we had was a magnificent effort and that used to be a sufficient number to get you into the top four anyway.

Not making excuses, other than to say it's bloody hard to get into the top four and it's getting harder each year.

End of 16 we were 19 and 7 equal best with the Swans.

[JanLorMill]

Malthouse could also keep his list performing from year to year. 92 Premiers, 93 Prelim, & 94 Premiers, with WCE. Back to back GFs vs Brisbane at Collingwood and again back to back against Geelong and the two against St Kilda with the eventual win - with prelims on either side of the GFs. It would be nice to have a Malthouse type track record of running talented lists deep into September year after year.

As an honest question, how has Bevo been unable to take this list deep into September year on year? Or have we overrated the list?

For starters with us Malthouse never had a once in generation player like Bont. Beasley was good but I think Naughton is better.

[bornadog]

For starters with us Malthouse never had a once in generation player like Bont. Beasley was good but I think Naughton is better.

Doug Hawkins enters the room - cough, cough

[GVGjr]

Yep! He was actually Rick Astley. A little known fact…

Great memory.

I can remember checking a whole heap of your posts to try and work out the Ricky reference but I must have missed it.

[GVGjr]

Bevo is right under the spot light at the moment but could you imagine the pressure level if he wasn't signed yet?

It's going to be a long week for the club and Bevo I feel.

[jeemak]

For starters with us Malthouse never had a once in generation player like Bont. Beasley was good but I think Naughton is better.

Doug Hawkins was pretty good, while Beaser kicked the most goals in the 80's and would nail them from twenty metres out like Naughton can't.

[Mantis]

We certainly aren't this bad.

Rd 1, well we played almost the best side so most of us can cop that one.
Last night was terrible, however we have made adjustments over the off season and these things can take time. Somehow Ross the boss can make it happen straight away that can be the new coach thing though.

We definitely needed the two practise games we seem to have stuffed that up.

Let's give them a chance to see if they can implement what the coaches are trying to do.

Besides a change in personnel, I cannot see any change/adjustment to the way we are playing... or should be playing. Surely if we had been training for 3-4 months to implement new strategies that something would be visible across 240min of footy...am I missing something?