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18-09-2023, 04:11 PM
#916
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
He actually played OK in the final. I agree, Tomlinson would be ok depth.
I think if fans had it their way (and I don't mean nuffy fans) about 10-12 players would be turned over a year per list, with no fringe players ever coming in and only wanting absolute stars unless they are under 22.
The reality is, bringing 8-10 18 years a year wouldn't turn out great and you need depth players.
Not trying to give heaps of love to Tomlinson, just seems a real blanket no to depth guys from most.
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18-09-2023, 05:04 PM
#917
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
He actually played OK in the final. I agree, Tomlinson would be ok depth.
Tomlinson is not the type of player we need
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18-09-2023, 05:36 PM
#918
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Tomlinson is not the type of player we need
Why do you believe this to be true? Not disagreeing, I am not really strong either way.
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18-09-2023, 05:38 PM
#919
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
Tomlinson was a fringe player 8 years ago.
Markov has at least 3 years on Tomlinson
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18-09-2023, 05:44 PM
#920
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
Marty Hore was a fringe intercept marking tall for Melbourne too - why not him?
The cost is far, far cheaper for someone who legitimately dominates his position at VFL level.
If reports of a cap crunch are actually true, bringing in a $500k fringe defender doesn't make sense to me. He's not a bad player, but cost vs output simply has to part of every trade discussion.
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18-09-2023, 05:53 PM
#921
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
If we are bringing in defenders from other clubs, then they have to be better than Gardner and Keath, otherwise why bother.
I will never see #16 the same!!
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18-09-2023, 05:58 PM
#922
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
Why do you believe this to be true? Not disagreeing, I am not really strong either way.
He is 30 years old and no taller than the Bont. He can't handle the monsters of the AFL, has not been a consistent performer and since joining Dees has played, 13, 7, 8, and 9 games each year. We don't need another 30 plus year old to play as a HBF.
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18-09-2023, 06:09 PM
#923
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
Mofra
Marty Hore was a fringe intercept marking tall for Melbourne too - why not him?
The cost is far, far cheaper for someone who legitimately dominates his position at VFL level.
If reports of a cap crunch are actually true, bringing in a $500k fringe defender doesn't make sense to me. He's not a bad player, but cost vs output simply has to part of every trade discussion.
Good point. So much of it for mine is about the salary he takes up. If there are cheaper options, I'd go that way too.
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18-09-2023, 06:12 PM
#924
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
He is 30 years old and no taller than the Bont. He can't handle the monsters of the AFL, has not been a consistent performer and since joining Dees has played, 13, 7, 8, and 9 games each year. We don't need another 30 plus year old to play as a HBF.
Would you knock back Steven May if he decided he wanted to join the dogs? Shorter and older than Tomlinson.
I don't really think we need him either but it's not just age and height related.
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18-09-2023, 06:32 PM
#925
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Axe Man
Would you knock back Steven May if he decided he wanted to join the dogs? Shorter and older than Tomlinson.
I don't really think we need him either but it's not just age and height related.
I used those two traits to emphasise we don't need someone with that profile but also said he is not a consistent performer.
Not many Mays around.
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18-09-2023, 06:46 PM
#926
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
Mofra
Marty Hore was a fringe intercept marking tall for Melbourne too - why not him?
The cost is far, far cheaper for someone who legitimately dominates his position at VFL level.
If reports of a cap crunch are actually true, bringing in a $500k fringe defender doesn't make sense to me. He's not a bad player, but cost vs output simply has to part of every trade discussion.
Dogs cap crunch right NOW or end of next year?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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18-09-2023, 06:49 PM
#927
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
I used those two traits to emphasise we don't need someone with that profile but also said he is not a consistent performer.
Not many Mays around.
I kind of see it as part of the squad though. You need decent supplementary players, that are willing to play a role and may step up as required.
I'm not spruiking Tomlinson specifically, however depth is super important and may eek you over the line in a game that makes all the difference.
Personally I would've kept TOB however his body just doesn't stand up.
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18-09-2023, 07:25 PM
#928
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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Grantysghost
Personally I would've kept TOB however his body just doesn't stand up.
Apparently Crows have some interest in TOB if they lose Doedee.
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18-09-2023, 07:40 PM
#929
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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GVGjr
Apparently Crows have some interest in TOB if they lose Doedee.
1st rounder?
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18-09-2023, 07:41 PM
#930
Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023
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GVGjr
Apparently Crows have some interest in TOB if they lose Doedee.
According to Tom Morris they are also looking at Marbior Chol. I guess with Hardwick arriving, he wants out.
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