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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    Which is why we need to be absolutely certain Bailey Smith will sign an extension. We cannot have him requesting a trade uncontracted. Watch him request Collingwood or some other top 4 team.

    Itd have been nice of Dunks to stick to his original request and go to essendon.
    Yeah but he really had to be close to his GFs family without it having anything to do with wanting to get away from his own. And that's not even mentioning how badly he needed to be close to his best mates partner.
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    And that's not even mentioning how badly he needed to be close to his best mates partner.
    When did Loinchop come out of retirement?
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    It's getting to the point where if we can't trade up in the draft, we're better of passing on Croft and using our 2 first rounders instead. Although with all the draft tampering going on that Dunkley trade is looking worse by the day. It'll end up being a 2nd rounder.
    It was ordinary when it went through on the day.

    I can see how this period is going to go for us. We need to pass on the outcasts from other clubs, free up some room on the main list and actually draft. Take our 4 picks and move on. I'd be pretty pissed off if we resigned all our low fringe players, grabbed someone's garbage and take 2 picks. We need to inject yourh and enthusiasm into this stale list, athough that will be difficult with a stale coach
    Last edited by G-Mo77; 22-09-2023 at 10:55 AM.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Finding ourselves with pick 4 always seemed a little too good to be true, and here we are, the AFL sticking it to us by handing Norf pick 11 seemingly without any stipulations on it needing to be used by them in its relative position.

    Two top four picks by virtue of being shit is essentially one of the reasons why the concession/ priority picks system was problematic in the first place.
    There's every chance we either pick a better player at 10/11, or develop them better, than whoever gets unlucky at North's pick 4 (6 after bids/compo)
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    So rumour has it the Dons are going to do a deal where they offer Gresham enough money to trigger first round compo! Then the Saints swap that back to the Dons for Shiel....actually no they'd keep that and swap something else more willingly.
    I mean, this is all becoming a little insane.

    The draft tampering here is next level.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    So rumour has it the Dons are going to do a deal where they offer Gresham enough money to trigger first round compo! Then the Saints swap that back to the Dons for Shiel....actually no they'd keep that and swap something else more willingly.
    I mean, this is all becoming a little insane.

    The draft tampering here is next level.
    The major (but not only) issue I would have with this is if Essendon are able to renegotiate the deal to spread out payments.

    If they are stuck with losing cap space that?s one thing (not great), however if all parties know the deal will be changed to something more long term, with payments being diluted, then it?s a massive rort.

    Assuming it?s true though. I?m more talking to the possibility of a loophole rather than this as an actuality.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    The major (but not only) issue I would have with this is if Essendon are able to renegotiate the deal to spread out payments.

    If they are stuck with losing cap space that?s one thing (not great), however if all parties know the deal will be changed to something more long term, with payments being diluted, then it?s a massive rort.

    Assuming it?s true though. I?m more talking to the possibility of a loophole rather than this as an actuality.
    The rumour also says the dons would restructure the deal. Not only that, it's a move by essendon to offload salary cap held by Shiel. Yes. Get rid if Shiel for salary dump but offer Gresham enough money to trigger band 1 compo.

    It's an absolute rort. The fact it's being reported in mainstream media so normally just shows how messed up the system is.

    It's absolutely messed up that you've got north and the saints actively shopping a player, wanting to get rid of them because they'd prefer the compo. Our dunkley pick gets pushed even further back with this. It'll end up being pick 30 at this rate

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Ben McKay has nominated Essendon as his new home.


    As a restricted free agent, North Melbourne has the right to match the bid.
    However, if it’s over 750k+ a year and enough to net first-round (pick 3) compo, expect the Roos to let him walk.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Ben McKay has nominated Essendon as his new home.


    As a restricted free agent, North Melbourne has the right to match the bid.
    However, if it’s over 750k+ a year and enough to net first-round (pick 3) compo, expect the Roos to let him walk.
    I like this. He's the stereotypical essendon recruit to continue the streak.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Ben McKay has nominated Essendon as his new home.


    As a restricted free agent, North Melbourne has the right to match the bid.
    However, if it’s over 750k+ a year and enough to net first-round (pick 3) compo, expect the Roos to let him walk.
    Ex coach there probably helps. Pick 3 is an enormous compensation for a slightly above average key defender. North will be smiling if that one gets through.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Ex coach there probably helps. Pick 3 is an enormous compensation for a slightly above average key defender. North will be smiling if that one gets through.
    Trouble is the compo is linked to the salary.
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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Trouble is the compo is linked to the salary.
    This combined with salary being able to be readjusted afterwards.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Ben McKay has nominated Essendon as his new home.


    As a restricted free agent, North Melbourne has the right to match the bid.
    However, if it’s over 750k+ a year and enough to net first-round (pick 3) compo, expect the Roos to let him walk.
    With the 30% increase in salary is 750k enough for band 1 now? I guess it's entirely irrelevant anyway. It's all about the agenda.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    The rumour also says the dons would restructure the deal. Not only that, it's a move by essendon to offload salary cap held by Shiel. Yes. Get rid if Shiel for salary dump but offer Gresham enough money to trigger band 1 compo.

    It's an absolute rort. The fact it's being reported in mainstream media so normally just shows how messed up the system is.

    It's absolutely messed up that you've got north and the saints actively shopping a player, wanting to get rid of them because they'd prefer the compo. Our dunkley pick gets pushed even further back with this. It'll end up being pick 30 at this rate
    Yep this is the crazy part of futures, you're gambling your future and there's so many variables now that can make it vastly less valuable.
    There should be no free agency compensation, if there is it should only be after the first round.

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    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Ex coach there probably helps. Pick 3 is an enormous compensation for a slightly above average key defender. North will be smiling if that one gets through.
    Has mega Frawley vibes

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