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15-06-2023, 03:48 PM
#106
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
hujsh
In that case we clearly had a preference for Jamarra and to try and get Bruce into form (eventually playing Darcy forward instead). The former is working out well long term and the latter was a waste of time.
I don't care to look back at Schache and say we completely disregard VFL form. Clearly there's more that's considered beyond VFL form (or Clearly would have got a game by now) that informs the faith the coaching group has in players like Hannan/Vandermeer and the lack of faith in players like Schache. I can only guess what those factors are though.
Regardless Hannan is a player we play and he played well in the VFL so I'm surprised anyone would be surprised he would be considered for inclusion in a role where people are calling for the incumbent to be dropped.
I get all that mate and normally I wouldn't have a problem. From the outside looking in there is just no consistency on both VFL and AFL form. It's plagued this club under Bevo's watch.
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15-06-2023, 03:55 PM
#107
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
I get all that mate and normally I wouldn't have a problem. From the outside looking in there is just no consistency on both VFL and AFL form. It's plagued this club under Bevo's watch.
I agree it frustrating and while it's the kind of thing I'd like more insight to we're also probably no different from any other fanbase in that regard. We're just one of the more frustrated groups because we're not a clear top 4 team and we don't have a sense that we're building up to anything great either.
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15-06-2023, 04:08 PM
#108
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
I have no problem with Arty staying in the side off the back of zero touches. It wasn't through lack of effort, he had more sprint efforts than anyone on the ground - it was just a weird game for him where the ball didn't come his way - whereas Weightman had plenty of it and it fell his way. There's been weeks where Cody can't get a kick.
Backing him to have a good one this weekend if selected.
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15-06-2023, 04:34 PM
#109
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
hujsh
In that case we clearly had a preference for Jamarra and to try and get Bruce into form (eventually playing Darcy forward instead). The former is working out well long term and the latter was a waste of time.
I don't care to look back at Schache and say we completely disregard VFL form. Clearly there's more that's considered beyond VFL form (or Clearly would have got a game by now) that informs the faith the coaching group has in players like Hannan/Vandermeer and the lack of faith in players like Schache. I can only guess what those factors are though.
Regardless Hannan is a player we play and he played well in the VFL so I'm surprised anyone would be surprised he would be considered for inclusion in a role where people are calling for the incumbent to be dropped.
At what point is performance actually important? Hannan has had more chances than just about any of our fringe players in recent years. Accept what he is - largely a non contributor. If we have injuries, fine, but we just don't for that position. I really couldn't care less for any other parameters than performance for a player of his age and experience.
I'd much, much rather stick with Arty and work through his struggles than use Hannan again.
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15-06-2023, 04:39 PM
#110
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
At what point is performance actually important? Hannan has had more chances than just about any of our fringe players in recent years. Accept what he is - largely a non contributor. If we have injuries, fine, but we just don't for that position. I really couldn't care less for any other parameters than performance for a player of his age and experience.
I'd much, much rather stick with Arty and work through his struggles than use Hannan again.
I'd be happy with either TBH, with Jones not in great form I'm just non-plussed about who fills the role and am fine with the person in goal kicking form.
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15-06-2023, 04:51 PM
#111
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
The fact that Hannan is even in the mix just shows where we are at.
I will never see #16 the same!!
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15-06-2023, 06:04 PM
#112
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
You'll get Caleb Poulter and you'll like it.
BORDERLINE FLYING
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15-06-2023, 06:48 PM
#113
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
You'll get Caleb Poulter and you'll like it.
Pretty silly to draft him in mid season and not play him
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15-06-2023, 06:59 PM
#114
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
At what point is performance actually important? Hannan has had more chances than just about any of our fringe players in recent years. Accept what he is - largely a non contributor. If we have injuries, fine, but we just don't for that position. I really couldn't care less for any other parameters than performance for a player of his age and experience.
I'd much, much rather stick with Arty and work through his struggles than use Hannan again.
Arty has had 5 times the game time this season as Hannan and still only contributed 4 goals. And he has been a terrible liability in the last couple of weeks. Let?s tell Hannan he has the second half of the season to settle in and show us what he is capable of.
With a zero possession game as our get out of goal clause.
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15-06-2023, 07:25 PM
#115
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Outs:- Arthur Jones (Omitted), James O'Donnell (Omitted), Josh Bruce (Omitted)
Ins (from):- Hayden Crozier, Lachlan McNeil, Mitch Hannan, Robbie McComb, Ryan Gardner, Tim O'Brien
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15-06-2023, 07:27 PM
#116
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
Outs:- Arthur Jones (Omitted), James O'Donnell (Omitted), Josh Bruce (Omitted)
Ins (from):- Hayden Crozier, Lachlan McNeil, Mitch Hannan, Robbie McComb, Ryan Gardner, Tim O'Brien
I thought they were our 3 worst from last week and exactly who I would have dropped. I am surprised!
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15-06-2023, 07:28 PM
#117
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
Outs:- Arthur Jones (Omitted), James O'Donnell (Omitted), Josh Bruce (Omitted)
Ins (from):- Hayden Crozier, Lachlan McNeil, Mitch Hannan, Robbie McComb, Ryan Gardner, Tim O'Brien
Oskar Baker is named on the Bulldogs site, but not AFL website
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15-06-2023, 07:31 PM
#118
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
Outs:- Arthur Jones (Omitted), James O'Donnell (Omitted), Josh Bruce (Omitted)
Ins (from):- Hayden Crozier, Lachlan McNeil, Mitch Hannan, Robbie McComb, Ryan Gardner, Tim O'Brien
The potential ins are whatever the plural is of whipping boys in one group.
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15-06-2023, 07:33 PM
#119
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Danjul
With a zero possession game as our get out of goal clause.
Talk about a Freudian slip
"It's over. It's all over."
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15-06-2023, 07:36 PM
#120
Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v North Melbourne
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Arty has had 5 times the game time this season as Hannan and still only contributed 4 goals. And he has been a terrible liability in the last couple of weeks. Let?s tell Hannan he has the second half of the season to settle in and show us what he is capable of.
With a zero possession game as our get out of goal clause.
Love it.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.