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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Good q Danj. Loads of players went before didn't they. I guess teams are reticent to use a high pick on a ruckman as 1.)theyre usually down the bottom and need a quick fix and 2.)following on from that don't have the time to wait 6/7 years for them to come good.
I think Sean Darcy the probably 3rd best ruck in the league from Freo was way later like 30s! in that same draft.
I remember seeing English?s video highlights at the time and he looked special. He did not move like most tall people. Very fluid and that gave him unusual acceleration and the ability to get into good positions.
I just wish we had given him more support while he was developing. Now he can offer support for his replacement in 2030.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I don?t barge into umpires rooms and abuse them.
Only because you don't know where the rooms are.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
Danjul
I remember seeing English?s video highlights at the time and he looked special. He did not move like most tall people. Very fluid and that gave him unusual acceleration and the ability to get into good positions.
I just wish we had given him more support while he was developing. Now he can offer support for his replacement in 2030.
Actually i recall now an interview with Matt Rendell who was the Pies recruiting manager at the time I believe. I think the issue was there was a question around his competitiveness too aka he's too nice.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I don’t barge into umpires rooms and abuse them.
That's what he said.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Two more tackles and he records the 9th ever 'quadruple-double' in AFL history. (Kicks, handballs, marks, tackles).
And played 86% game time. Only Gardner, Jones and Lobb spent longer on the ground for us.
That is a staggering workrate for any player, let alone a ruckman.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
Danjul
I was stunned when he got through to us. Couldn?t believe our luck. Was obviously going to be a champion. Why wasn?t he taken earlier?
I'm chuckling along with you anyway...
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
westdog54
Two more tackles and he records the 9th ever 'quadruple-double' in AFL history. (Kicks, handballs, marks, tackles).
And played 86% game time. Only Gardner, Jones and Lobb spent longer on the ground for us.
That is a staggering workrate for any player, let alone a ruckman.
Please don't let any commentators see that terminology. It will only encourage them..
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
He wasn't tonight. We really needed him to stand up tonight. We lost the hit outs 27-50. He looked like he was physically dominated by Lycett at the stoppages. He lowered his colours to a player who has been out of form. It hurt us.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
He wasn't tonight. We really needed him to stand up tonight. We lost the hit outs 27-50. He looked like he was physically dominated by Lycett at the stoppages. He lowered his colours to a player who has been out of form. It hurt us.
HTA Lycett 11, English 9
Clearances: WB: 47, Port 31
Hitouts mean stuff all unless it is to your teams adv.
Disposals, Tim 17, Lycett 11
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
bornadog
HTA Lycett 11, English 9
Clearances: WB: 47, Port 31
Hitouts mean stuff all unless it is to your teams adv.
Disposals, Tim 17, Lycett 11
Yes. They are compelling stats. But to my eyes at the game, at the stoppages Lycett gave them more than English did. He just appeared off. To be fair, last week he did play one of the best games a Ruckman can play in the modern game, so maybe I was judging him against a Diamond Standard and he didn't play at that standard tonight.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Yes. They are compelling stats. But to my eyes at the game, at the stoppages Lycett gave them more than English did. He just appeared off. To be fair, last week he did play one of the best games a Ruckman can play in the modern game, so maybe I was judging him against a Diamond Standard and he didn't play at that standard tonight.
I didn't see the game - so fair enough, but stats tell a different story. To me, looks like Lycett gave the ball to our mids
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
He wasn't tonight. We really needed him to stand up tonight. We lost the hit outs 27-50. He looked like he was physically dominated by Lycett at the stoppages. He lowered his colours to a player who has been out of form. It hurt us.
He did okay but got beaten by a Lycett who is a pretty good ruckman from time to time. No shame in that.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Yes. They are compelling stats. But to my eyes at the game, at the stoppages Lycett gave them more than English did. He just appeared off. To be fair, last week he did play one of the best games a Ruckman can play in the modern game, so maybe I was judging him against a Diamond Standard and he didn't play at that standard tonight.
He played well last week but not as a pure ruckman
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
Originally Posted by
bornadog
HTA Lycett 11, English 9
Clearances: WB: 47, Port 31
Hitouts mean stuff all unless it is to your teams adv.
Disposals, Tim 17, Lycett 11
Where is the stat for being pushed out the way or monstered?
What the stats don’t tell you is how many of those hits to advance become a dirty clearance under pressure. Huge difference between a scrappy kick forward and a midfielder flying free through the centre.
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Re: This Dog is the best ruck in the game
I couldn't believe the handball over the head that is just trying to be too clever and under pressure keep it simple.
Don't piss off old people
The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...