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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    What you are saying is we need to be more efficient with our possessions. Not sure why we are scared of the corridor.
    Is it not the game plan? (I assume it is since we keep doing it)
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Is it not the game plan? (I assume it is since we keep doing it)
    I know it is the game plan, but that is what I am saying, why are we not using the corridor.
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I know it is the game plan, but that is what I am saying, why are we not using the corridor.
    I’d like Bevo to tell us. I’d really like to understand the reason since other teams are using it to great effect.
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    I’d like Bevo to tell us. I’d really like to understand the reason since other teams are using it to great effect.
    Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.
    I’m not sure. But there must be some reason for it. I’m just not sure what it is.
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.
    I think thats exactly what it is. Protecting our fragile defence but its also destroying our forward line. Winning as many games as we did playing the rubbish we served up, has made our coaches think this method is working. We were just lucky. Got Freo over there when they were worse that us, carlton when they were horribly out of form, GWS without Greene, Crows without Walker & Tilthorpe. Just felt like play crap & still win but once we get our confidence back we have so much room for improvement. Still waiting.

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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    I’m not sure. But there must be some reason for it. I’m just not sure what it is.
    Is it because we have to many of the same type of mid fielders who are happy to accumulate possession. We don't hurt teams. Our mids don't play accountable football and are not overly quick so opposition are happy to let them accumulate. They need to change it up and take risks and take the game on.

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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullies View Post
    Is it because we have to many of the same type of mid fielders who are happy to accumulate possession. We don't hurt teams. Our mids don't play accountable football and are not overly quick so opposition are happy to let them accumulate. They need to change it up and take risks and take the game on.
    But is that the reason we don't play the corridor? (that is what we were discussing)
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Percentage under Bevo:


    Scores Against:

    2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
    Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)
    2023: averaging 78.25 per game - well over 10% above 2016 & 2021 levels - about 7% better than ?rest ?
    Probably a coincidence:

    We gave us 78 points against Sydney & GWS - this season average and lost

    We restricted Richmond to our 2016 & 2021 average of 71 points - and won

    When our defence holds to 71 points or better we do very well. Hold both GWS & Sydney to 71 and we win both. I guess we know where we need to focus where we are dangerous.
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    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Percentage under Bevo:

    Year: percentage (for/against)

    2015: 115.12 (2,101/1,825)
    2016: 115.41 (1,857/1,609)
    2017: 97.07 (1,857/1,913)
    2018: 77.32 (1,575/2,037)
    2019: 107.24 (1,941/1,810)
    2020: 106.67 (** C19: 1,103/1,034)
    2021: 132.84 (1,994/1,501) - missed top four on percentage
    2022: 108.89 (1,973/1,812)
    2023: 108.7 (1,919/1,766)

    Average: 106%

    Scores For: Settled around 1,900 per season - 86 points per game

    Scores Against:

    2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
    Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)
    2023: 76.8 per game - well over 10% above 2016 & 2021 levels - about 7% better than ?rest? average
    *2024: 123%
    Points For: 94.5 per game
    Points Against: 76.8 per game

    So far percentage highest since 2016 & 2021 owing to higher than Bevo era average scoring (+8 per game), owing to our increased accuracy this year. While our defence is just a goal a game higher than 2016 & 2021 (on par with last year) which are outliers in the Bevo era. This is despite being 3 wins, 3 losses.
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