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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Going to be a warm 28 degree grand final day. Does that play into Brisbane's hands? They're not only used to the conditions but also Collingwood may struggle to maintain their mayhem brand.

    Collingwood have been the better side this year but McStay out won't help them with their already lack of key forwards. I think Brisbane might get the win.

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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogsthru&thru View Post
    Going to be a warm 28 degree grand final day. Does that play into Brisbane's hands? They're not only used to the conditions but also Collingwood may struggle to maintain their mayhem brand.

    Collingwood have been the better side this year but McStay out won't help them with their already lack of key forwards. I think Brisbane might get the win.
    Warm weather will assist Brisbane (more because Collingwood's midfield is so slow), but the reality is that Collingwood have been in average form for 2 months now, and you can't just flick the switch at this time of year. They have a good half-dozen key players who are in an extended run of poor form.

    What they do have is an amazing back 6 that are hiding a lot of sins elsewhere on the ground - that is why they are winning games of footy barely kicking 50-60 points. But unless their forwards and mids (De Goey aside) significantly lift their output, Brisbane has many and varied forward weapons that should cause all sorts of problems on Saturday.

    I get why the filth are favourites with the bookies, but on form Brisbane should be the favourite.
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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    Warm weather will assist Brisbane (more because Collingwood's midfield is so slow), but the reality is that Collingwood have been in average form for 2 months now, and you can't just flick the switch at this time of year. They have a good half-dozen key players who are in an extended run of poor form.

    What they do have is an amazing back 6 that are hiding a lot of sins elsewhere on the ground - that is why they are winning games of footy barely kicking 50-60 points. But unless their forwards and mids (De Goey aside) significantly lift their output, Brisbane has many and varied forward weapons that should cause all sorts of problems on Saturday.

    I get why the filth are favourites with the bookies, but on form Brisbane should be the favourite.
    Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.
    Pies are very fast starters, and Brisbane will want to get out of the blocks much quicker than they did in the PF.

    Bland fajita is just about the most important player in the GF - if he can blanket De Goey like he did Cripps on the weekend, Brisbane will have one hand on the cup.
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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Brisbane have had the upper hand in recent times.

    Recent Matches Between Collingwood Magpies and Brisbane Lions
    Date Venue Home v Away Teams Result High Disposals High Goals
    Round 23, 18 Aug 2023 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeated by Brisbane 100-124 L. Neale 31
    S. Pendlebury 31
    T. Mitchell 31
    C. Cameron 4
    Round 4, 6 Apr 2023 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 116-83 N. Daicos 38 C. Cameron 6
    Round 5, 14 Apr 2022 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 98-91 J. Crisp 36 J. Daniher 4
    J. De Goey 4
    Round 22, 14 Aug 2021 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 142-57 L. Neale 31 C. Cameron 6
    Round 3, 1 Apr 2021 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeated by Brisbane 72-73 S. Pendlebury 30 J. Daniher 3
    Round 15, 4 Sep 2020 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 42-34 J. Crisp 30 M. Cox 2
    E. Hipwood 2
    Round 5, 18 Apr 2019 Gabba Brisbane defeated by Collingwood 61-123 A. Treloar 35 B. Mihocek 4
    Round 21, 11 Aug 2018 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeats Brisbane 104-73 T. Adams 33
    D. Beams 33
    J. De Goey 4
    Round 7, 6 May 2018 Gabba Brisbane defeated by Collingwood 114-121 S. Sidebottom 34
    D. Zorko 34
    J. De Goey 5
    Round 10, 28 May 2017 MCG Collingwood defeats Brisbane 129-84 S. Sidebottom 34 J. Elliott 4
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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Brisbane have had the upper hand in recent times.

    Recent Matches Between Collingwood Magpies and Brisbane Lions
    Date Venue Home v Away Teams Result High Disposals High Goals
    Round 23, 18 Aug 2023 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeated by Brisbane 100-124 L. Neale 31
    S. Pendlebury 31
    T. Mitchell 31
    C. Cameron 4
    Round 4, 6 Apr 2023 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 116-83 N. Daicos 38 C. Cameron 6
    Round 5, 14 Apr 2022 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 98-91 J. Crisp 36 J. Daniher 4
    J. De Goey 4
    Round 22, 14 Aug 2021 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 142-57 L. Neale 31 C. Cameron 6
    Round 3, 1 Apr 2021 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeated by Brisbane 72-73 S. Pendlebury 30 J. Daniher 3
    Round 15, 4 Sep 2020 Gabba Brisbane defeats Collingwood 42-34 J. Crisp 30 M. Cox 2
    E. Hipwood 2
    Round 5, 18 Apr 2019 Gabba Brisbane defeated by Collingwood 61-123 A. Treloar 35 B. Mihocek 4
    Round 21, 11 Aug 2018 Marvel Stadium Collingwood defeats Brisbane 104-73 T. Adams 33
    D. Beams 33
    J. De Goey 4
    Round 7, 6 May 2018 Gabba Brisbane defeated by Collingwood 114-121 S. Sidebottom 34
    D. Zorko 34
    J. De Goey 5
    Round 10, 28 May 2017 MCG Collingwood defeats Brisbane 129-84 S. Sidebottom 34 J. Elliott 4
    Looks like they struggle containing Cameron.

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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    0 games in the last 9 at the MCG

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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.
    I'm very opposite. I thought the Pies GWS final was the GF. It was as hard a contest as you're ever likely to see.

    The Lions v Blues was bruise free home and away stuff.

    No way the Lions can match the Pies intensity, they're going to get pasted - and let's not forget it's at the Pies home ground and the ground where the Lions have nfi.

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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    I'm very opposite. I thought the Pies GWS final was the GF. It was as hard a contest as you're ever likely to see.

    The Lions v Blues was bruise free home and away stuff.

    No way the Lions can match the Pies intensity, they're going to get pasted - and let's not forget it's at the Pies home ground and the ground where the Lions have nfi.
    Interesting take - wouldn't the fact that the Pies had a brutal game while the Lions skated through mostly have an impact?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    Interesting take - wouldn't the fact that the Pies had a brutal game while the Lions skated through mostly have an impact?
    Thinking back to 2016 - Cats Swans at the G was a pretty easy prelim from memory. We were hardened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    0 games in the last 9 at the MCG
    Brisbane's last 10 games at the G - only 1 win

    Rnd T Opponent F A R M Crowd Date
    R18 A Melbourne 104 105 L -1 38030 Fri 14-Jul-2023 7:50 PM
    R13 A Hawthorn 73 98 L -25 35869 Sat 10-Jun-2023 1:45 PM
    PF F Geelong 49 120 L -71 77677 Fri 16-Sep-2022 7:50 PM
    SF F Melbourne 92 79 W 13 62162 Fri 09-Sep-2022 7:50 PM
    R20 A Richmond 97 104 L -7 39056 Sun 31-Jul-2022 3:20 PM
    R15 A Melbourne 53 117 L -64 37728 Thu 23-Jun-2022 7:20 PM
    R1 A Hawthorn 62 90 L -28 Sun 22-Mar-2020 3:35 PM
    R23 A Richmond 55 82 L -27 76995 Sun 25-Aug-2019 3:20 PM
    R4 A Essendon 65 112 L -47 48289 Sat 13-Apr-2019 2:10 PM
    R4 A Richmond 17 110 L -93 32870 Sat 14-Apr-2018 2:10 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Thinking back to 2016 - Cats Swans at the G was a pretty easy prelim from memory. We were hardened.
    You're right but EW is saying that we would've pantsed the swannies if we had had an easier time against the giants.

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    Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series

    Quote Originally Posted by Topdog View Post
    0 games in the last 9 at the MCG
    Beating Melbourne in a knock out final in 2022 doesn't count?

    Secondly to that they should have beaten melbourne this year again there.

    MCG hoodoo is non existent.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Beating Melbourne in a knock out final in 2022 doesn't count?

    Secondly to that they should have beaten melbourne this year again there.

    MCG hoodoo is non existent.
    Pretty sure TD was commenting on the games v Collingwood
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