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25-09-2023, 03:17 PM
#646
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
Going to be a warm 28 degree grand final day. Does that play into Brisbane's hands? They're not only used to the conditions but also Collingwood may struggle to maintain their mayhem brand.
Collingwood have been the better side this year but McStay out won't help them with their already lack of key forwards. I think Brisbane might get the win.
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25-09-2023, 03:40 PM
#647
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Going to be a warm 28 degree grand final day. Does that play into Brisbane's hands? They're not only used to the conditions but also Collingwood may struggle to maintain their mayhem brand.
Collingwood have been the better side this year but McStay out won't help them with their already lack of key forwards. I think Brisbane might get the win.
Warm weather will assist Brisbane (more because Collingwood's midfield is so slow), but the reality is that Collingwood have been in average form for 2 months now, and you can't just flick the switch at this time of year. They have a good half-dozen key players who are in an extended run of poor form.
What they do have is an amazing back 6 that are hiding a lot of sins elsewhere on the ground - that is why they are winning games of footy barely kicking 50-60 points. But unless their forwards and mids (De Goey aside) significantly lift their output, Brisbane has many and varied forward weapons that should cause all sorts of problems on Saturday.
I get why the filth are favourites with the bookies, but on form Brisbane should be the favourite.
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25-09-2023, 04:13 PM
#648
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Sedat
Warm weather will assist Brisbane (more because Collingwood's midfield is so slow), but the reality is that Collingwood have been in average form for 2 months now, and you can't just flick the switch at this time of year. They have a good half-dozen key players who are in an extended run of poor form.
What they do have is an amazing back 6 that are hiding a lot of sins elsewhere on the ground - that is why they are winning games of footy barely kicking 50-60 points. But unless their forwards and mids (De Goey aside) significantly lift their output, Brisbane has many and varied forward weapons that should cause all sorts of problems on Saturday.
I get why the filth are favourites with the bookies, but on form Brisbane should be the favourite.
Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.
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25-09-2023, 04:31 PM
#649
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.
Pies are very fast starters, and Brisbane will want to get out of the blocks much quicker than they did in the PF.
Bland fajita is just about the most important player in the GF - if he can blanket De Goey like he did Cripps on the weekend, Brisbane will have one hand on the cup.
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25-09-2023, 04:41 PM
#650
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
Brisbane have had the upper hand in recent times.
Recent Matches Between Collingwood Magpies and Brisbane Lions |
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Date |
Venue |
Home v Away Teams |
Result |
High Disposals |
High Goals |
Round 23, 18 Aug 2023 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeated by Brisbane |
100-124 |
L. Neale 31
S. Pendlebury 31
T. Mitchell 31 |
C. Cameron 4 |
Round 4, 6 Apr 2023 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
116-83 |
N. Daicos 38 |
C. Cameron 6 |
Round 5, 14 Apr 2022 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
98-91 |
J. Crisp 36 |
J. Daniher 4
J. De Goey 4 |
Round 22, 14 Aug 2021 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
142-57 |
L. Neale 31 |
C. Cameron 6 |
Round 3, 1 Apr 2021 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeated by Brisbane |
72-73 |
S. Pendlebury 30 |
J. Daniher 3 |
Round 15, 4 Sep 2020 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
42-34 |
J. Crisp 30 |
M. Cox 2
E. Hipwood 2 |
Round 5, 18 Apr 2019 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeated by Collingwood |
61-123 |
A. Treloar 35 |
B. Mihocek 4 |
Round 21, 11 Aug 2018 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeats Brisbane |
104-73 |
T. Adams 33
D. Beams 33 |
J. De Goey 4 |
Round 7, 6 May 2018 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeated by Collingwood |
114-121 |
S. Sidebottom 34
D. Zorko 34 |
J. De Goey 5 |
Round 10, 28 May 2017 |
MCG |
Collingwood defeats Brisbane |
129-84 |
S. Sidebottom 34 |
J. Elliott 4 |
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25-09-2023, 04:44 PM
#651
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Brisbane have had the upper hand in recent times.
Recent Matches Between Collingwood Magpies and Brisbane Lions |
|
Date |
Venue |
Home v Away Teams |
Result |
High Disposals |
High Goals |
Round 23, 18 Aug 2023 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeated by Brisbane |
100-124 |
L. Neale 31
S. Pendlebury 31
T. Mitchell 31 |
C. Cameron 4 |
Round 4, 6 Apr 2023 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
116-83 |
N. Daicos 38 |
C. Cameron 6 |
Round 5, 14 Apr 2022 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
98-91 |
J. Crisp 36 |
J. Daniher 4
J. De Goey 4 |
Round 22, 14 Aug 2021 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
142-57 |
L. Neale 31 |
C. Cameron 6 |
Round 3, 1 Apr 2021 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeated by Brisbane |
72-73 |
S. Pendlebury 30 |
J. Daniher 3 |
Round 15, 4 Sep 2020 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeats Collingwood |
42-34 |
J. Crisp 30 |
M. Cox 2
E. Hipwood 2 |
Round 5, 18 Apr 2019 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeated by Collingwood |
61-123 |
A. Treloar 35 |
B. Mihocek 4 |
Round 21, 11 Aug 2018 |
Marvel Stadium |
Collingwood defeats Brisbane |
104-73 |
T. Adams 33
D. Beams 33 |
J. De Goey 4 |
Round 7, 6 May 2018 |
Gabba |
Brisbane defeated by Collingwood |
114-121 |
S. Sidebottom 34
D. Zorko 34 |
J. De Goey 5 |
Round 10, 28 May 2017 |
MCG |
Collingwood defeats Brisbane |
129-84 |
S. Sidebottom 34 |
J. Elliott 4 |
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Looks like they struggle containing Cameron.
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25-09-2023, 04:57 PM
#652
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
0 games in the last 9 at the MCG
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25-09-2023, 05:13 PM
#653
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Sedat
Bland.
Him?
"It's over. It's all over."
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25-09-2023, 05:29 PM
#654
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
Yeah I feel the same way Sedat, think if Brisbane can hit the scoreboard they will win regardless of the weather.
I'm very opposite. I thought the Pies GWS final was the GF. It was as hard a contest as you're ever likely to see.
The Lions v Blues was bruise free home and away stuff.
No way the Lions can match the Pies intensity, they're going to get pasted - and let's not forget it's at the Pies home ground and the ground where the Lions have nfi.
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25-09-2023, 05:32 PM
#655
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I'm very opposite. I thought the Pies GWS final was the GF. It was as hard a contest as you're ever likely to see.
The Lions v Blues was bruise free home and away stuff.
No way the Lions can match the Pies intensity, they're going to get pasted - and let's not forget it's at the Pies home ground and the ground where the Lions have nfi.
Interesting take - wouldn't the fact that the Pies had a brutal game while the Lions skated through mostly have an impact?
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25-09-2023, 05:33 PM
#656
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Interesting take - wouldn't the fact that the Pies had a brutal game while the Lions skated through mostly have an impact?
Thinking back to 2016 - Cats Swans at the G was a pretty easy prelim from memory. We were hardened.
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25-09-2023, 05:34 PM
#657
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
0 games in the last 9 at the MCG
Brisbane's last 10 games at the G - only 1 win
Rnd |
T |
Opponent |
F |
A |
R |
M |
Crowd |
Date |
R18 |
A |
Melbourne |
104 |
105 |
L |
-1 |
38030 |
Fri 14-Jul-2023 7:50 PM |
R13 |
A |
Hawthorn |
73 |
98 |
L |
-25 |
35869 |
Sat 10-Jun-2023 1:45 PM |
PF |
F |
Geelong |
49 |
120 |
L |
-71 |
77677 |
Fri 16-Sep-2022 7:50 PM |
SF |
F |
Melbourne |
92 |
79 |
W |
13 |
62162 |
Fri 09-Sep-2022 7:50 PM |
R20 |
A |
Richmond |
97 |
104 |
L |
-7 |
39056 |
Sun 31-Jul-2022 3:20 PM |
R15 |
A |
Melbourne |
53 |
117 |
L |
-64 |
37728 |
Thu 23-Jun-2022 7:20 PM |
R1 |
A |
Hawthorn |
62 |
90 |
L |
-28 |
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Sun 22-Mar-2020 3:35 PM |
R23 |
A |
Richmond |
55 |
82 |
L |
-27 |
76995 |
Sun 25-Aug-2019 3:20 PM |
R4 |
A |
Essendon |
65 |
112 |
L |
-47 |
48289 |
Sat 13-Apr-2019 2:10 PM |
R4 |
A |
Richmond |
17 |
110 |
L |
-93 |
32870 |
Sat 14-Apr-2018 2:10 PM |
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25-09-2023, 05:37 PM
#658
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Thinking back to 2016 - Cats Swans at the G was a pretty easy prelim from memory. We were hardened.
You're right but EW is saying that we would've pantsed the swannies if we had had an easier time against the giants.
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25-09-2023, 05:40 PM
#659
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
Topdog
0 games in the last 9 at the MCG
Beating Melbourne in a knock out final in 2022 doesn't count?
Secondly to that they should have beaten melbourne this year again there.
MCG hoodoo is non existent.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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25-09-2023, 05:45 PM
#660
Re: 2023 AFL Finals Series
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Originally Posted by
azabob
Beating Melbourne in a knock out final in 2022 doesn't count?
Secondly to that they should have beaten melbourne this year again there.
MCG hoodoo is non existent.
Pretty sure TD was commenting on the games v Collingwood
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