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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Thanks BT, this is our longest ongoing topic and I love it.

    Spot on with your comments, we need to back in the recruiting team to find some talent in the later rounds.

    Hopefully GVGjr theory is correct in that Croft is a long term prospect similar to Todd Marshall and a bid is closer to pick twenty and not pick ten.
    I think this is the 1047th time BT said the same thing
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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I think this is the 1047th time BT said the same thing
    It is getting to the stage where GVG will tell us to take it off line or create a new board similar to the pre season training one!

    I've now made peace with the fact we are taking him, it is just how well we play our hand.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    It is getting to the stage where GVG will tell us to take it off line or create a new board similar to the pre season training one!

    I've now made peace with the fact we are taking him, it is just how well we play our hand.
    I want to package up for the Wiz! It's the wiz!

    I don't care for Croft. We can get guys like him from Premier Cricket.
    JOD kind of makes this pick silly now. Just get the wiz!

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Mr around Nick the Wizard Watson.

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Mr around Nick the Wizard Watson.
    Nobody beats him
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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Trade up to GCS. Get Stevens & Croft. Hopefully Lohmann in the trade period. Then look at live trading back into the draft where we can.

    A top 5 player, a 10-15 player, a former first rounder from two years ago is a handy injection of talent. The bigger thing is backing ourselves into drafting some kids instead of hoarding VFL players or rookieing delisted players. We?ve got to have our recruiters do some young talent recruiting. If they take maybe 3 kids, even if only one or two turn out to half way good then we walk away happy.
    This is the play, but what if Suns don?t go for it and instead deal with Geelong or Richmond (who seem to always do deals).

    If we can?t trade significantly up, then what do we do?

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMahatma View Post
    This is the play, but what if Suns don?t go for it and instead deal with Geelong or Richmond (who seem to always do deals).

    If we can?t trade significantly up, then what do we do?
    It?s a math based trade. So the normal trade narrative isn?t relevant. We have good points, but so do Melbourne & GWS.

    If we can?t trade up, then we trade out. For players or future 1sts.

    But there?s a few ways to trade up. If not a straight swap,

    Say Melbourne get Pick 4 of GCS (with their 1st and seconds x 2)
    Melbourne trade 4 & 5 for Pick 1.
    WCE then trade pick 5 & 55 for 10 & 17 to dogs

    Dees turn their first into Pick 1
    WCE turn Pick 1 into 4, 10 & 17 (plus 19, ports second, their 3rd & Ports 3rd)
    Dogs get a top 5 pick, some extra points


    I think there?s going to be a few ways to trade up. Pick 10 & 17 in a decent draft are a good proposition for a team needing points (GCS) or looking to rebuild (WCE). So I?m pretty confident we can find a way to do it.
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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    You’re actually amazing

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMahatma View Post
    You’re actually amazing
    BT should be working in the industry
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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMahatma View Post
    You’re actually amazing
    Nah, just math. I am good at calculation.

    As I say I’m pretty confident there’s a path to trade up.
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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    BT should be working in the industry
    He definitely should be, preferably at the dogs.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    BT should be working in the industry
    When the dogs have an unpaid volunteer shit kicker role, I will happily apply. Stuff helping another club. But honestly, it’s really just math and problem solving. Like a cross between soduko and a rubix cube.

    The last time we had two firsts with a top 10 was Naughton & Ed. Aaron played in a GF, Ed would’ve if fit. Before that, Jacko & Jake. Played in a flag. Hopefully we can replicate that again with two high picks nailed by the club recruiters.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    Nah, just math. I am good at calculation.
    What are you talking about that's the literal definition of amazing. That's some mystical magic crap.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    BT should be working in the industry
    Sam power, can you please use BT as an advisor on drafting points ? Maybe give him a hint or 2 about player list management as well.

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    Re: Dogs need review of their whole footy department

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogtragic View Post
    . But honestly, it’s really just math and problem solving. Like a cross between soduko and a rubix cube.
    thanks for sharering the secret to unlocking how to do draft point calculations.

    I am hopeless at soduko and rubix cube. No wonder this stuff makes no sense to me.

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