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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by angelopetraglia View Post
    The AFL has also been running ads for the "official" seltzer partner for the AFL on Fox Footy too which is just as bad. Good Tides Seltzer. So it is not just Bailey and friends. There are a number of others inlcuding the AFL who are cashing in on this.

    Call my cynicial, but the AFL and AFL Footballers marekting alcoholic lolly water to a young and impressionable audience is not a good look. Just as bad as their partnership with sports betting companies that feature in the offical AFL app.

    The AFL want to take a moral leadership position on the voice, racism, diveristy etc. but are happy to market alcoholic lolly water targeted at kids and sports betting when it means they can line their pockets.

    Don't tell me, show me. They fail this test everytime. Virtue signalling is easy, actually living ethically is significantly more difficult.

    Oh that ad is so cringe. With Darcy Moore and Slobbo.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Yep - there's a drop of Bailey's sweat in every bottle.
    I loved how he said he'd spend his day off tweaking the ingredients to get the flavour right like he was making cupcakes for a farmers' market haha. Im sure the actual distillers would love him getting in the road.

    Who ever is writing this shit for him is doing a marvellous job.
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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Oh that ad is so cringe. With Darcy Moore and Slobbo.
    Yes. It is a terrible ad and terrible look. Horrific.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

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    I loved how he said he'd spend his day off tweaking the ingredients to get the flavour right like he was making cupcakes for a farmers' market haha. Im sure the actual distillers would love him getting in the road.

    Who ever is writing this shit for him is doing a marvellous job.
    If he can get Bevo to pose with a bottle - then I'll give him his dues.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Can we get 10% off if a bulldog member ?
    Bring back the biff

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by angelopetraglia View Post
    The AFL has also been running ads for the "official" seltzer partner for the AFL on Fox Footy too which is just as bad. Good Tides Seltzer. So it is not just Bailey and friends. There are a number of others inlcuding the AFL who are cashing in on this.

    Call my cynicial, but the AFL and AFL Footballers marekting alcoholic lolly water to a young and impressionable audience is not a good look. Just as bad as their partnership with sports betting companies that feature in the offical AFL app.

    The AFL want to take a moral leadership position on the voice, racism, diveristy etc. but are happy to market alcoholic lolly water targeted at kids and sports betting when it means they can line their pockets.

    Don't tell me, show me. They fail this test everytime. Virtue signalling is easy, actually living ethically is significantly more difficult.

    Off topic, but the AFEL does whatever it takes to fill their own coffers - nothing more. They will always say the right things, but what they do is all that matters.

    Anybody who expects anything more from the AFEL execs (other than filling their own boots) are living in a fantasy land. They are not serious or talented people and should never be listened to or taken seriously on anything. Same goes for so many people of influence in society today.

    Apologies, off topic. Back on Bailey. He will have less opportunities to market himself in the future unless he excels in his core profession. I hope he cashes in off the field and gives his absolute all on the field for the remainder of his career and wins premierships with the Bulldogs. he has some serious gifts that we lack and some shortcomings that he needs to keep working on. It's all up to him.
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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

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    Off topic, but the AFEL does whatever it takes to fill their own coffers - nothing more. They will always say the right things, but what they do is all that matters.

    Anybody who expects anything more from the AFEL execs (other than filling their own boots) are living in a fantasy land. They are not serious or talented people and should never be listened to or taken seriously on anything. Same goes for so many people of influence in society today.

    Apologies, off topic. Back on Bailey. He will have less opportunities to market himself in the future unless he excels in his core profession. I hope he cashes in off the field and gives his absolute all on the field for the remainder of his career and wins premierships with the Bulldogs. he has some serious gifts that we lack and some shortcomings that he needs to keep working on. It's all up to him.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    Apologies, off topic. Back on Bailey. He will have less opportunities to market himself in the future unless he excels in his core profession. I hope he cashes in off the field and gives his absolute all on the field for the remainder of his career and wins premierships with the Bulldogs. he has some serious gifts that we lack and some shortcomings that he needs to keep working on. It's all up to him.
    I don't think that's true of Bailey's audience demographic. He's never been an All Australian, hasn't won a BnF and has never put together a consistent season of footy - his last two years have been poor - but he's also never been bigger as a marketing commodity. I'd suggest most of his Instagram followers or the people that notice him on Cotton On billboards couldn't really give a stuff what he does on-field.

    I think a Bailey Smith that cruises along and plays another 130 games without ever tearing down trees will still be a huge star because it's not his footy ability that makes him marketable to Gen Z.

    It's an interesting one because I'm sure that's a huge factor that his manager will be considering. If Bailey's decisions are more about money than footy, exposure (playing for a big club in big games) probably means a lot more than on-field success or what the best 'footy' move would be. I'm sure Paul Connors is just as much considering 'Brand Bailey' as he is Bailey Smith the AFL footballer.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    I don't think that's true of Bailey's audience demographic. He's never been an All Australian, hasn't won a BnF and has never put together a consistent season of footy - his last two years have been poor - but he's also never been bigger as a marketing commodity. I'd suggest most of his Instagram followers or the people that notice him on Cotton On billboards couldn't really give a stuff what he does on-field.

    I think a Bailey Smith that cruises along and plays another 130 games without ever tearing down trees will still be a huge star because it's not his footy ability that makes him marketable to Gen Z.

    It's an interesting one because I'm sure that's a huge factor that his manager will be considering. If Bailey's decisions are more about money than footy, exposure (playing for a big club in big games) probably means a lot more than on-field success or what the best 'footy' move would be. I'm sure Paul Connors is just as much considering 'Brand Bailey' as he is Bailey Smith the AFL footballer.
    Yes. Agree 100%.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    I don't think that's true of Bailey's audience demographic. He's never been an All Australian, hasn't won a BnF and has never put together a consistent season of footy - his last two years have been poor - but he's also never been bigger as a marketing commodity. I'd suggest most of his Instagram followers or the people that notice him on Cotton On billboards couldn't really give a stuff what he does on-field.

    I think a Bailey Smith that cruises along and plays another 130 games without ever tearing down trees will still be a huge star because it's not his footy ability that makes him marketable to Gen Z.

    It's an interesting one because I'm sure that's a huge factor that his manager will be considering. If Bailey's decisions are more about money than footy, exposure (playing for a big club in big games) probably means a lot more than on-field success or what the best 'footy' move would be. I'm sure Paul Connors is just as much considering 'Brand Bailey' as he is Bailey Smith the AFL footballer.
    Im 100% he'll be at one of the big 4 after next season to keep building his brand.
    The curse is dead.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

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    Im 100% he'll be at one of the big 4 after next season to keep building his brand.
    Absolutely - 24 will be his last as a Dog.

    Reminding me a bit of was it Anna Kournikova who transcended the sport and was worth more off the court than on it?

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by angelopetraglia View Post
    Yes. But that doesn't make it any better.
    As a completely 100% very much heterosexual male... Reese Walsh is pretty easy on the eye also.

    I can't imagine ever buying this stuff, but agree that it'll probably dominate the young female market for a bit (until the next thing comes along).

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    I don't think that's true of Bailey's audience demographic. He's never been an All Australian, hasn't won a BnF and has never put together a consistent season of footy - his last two years have been poor - but he's also never been bigger as a marketing commodity. I'd suggest most of his Instagram followers or the people that notice him on Cotton On billboards couldn't really give a stuff what he does on-field.

    I think a Bailey Smith that cruises along and plays another 130 games without ever tearing down trees will still be a huge star because it's not his footy ability that makes him marketable to Gen Z.

    It's an interesting one because I'm sure that's a huge factor that his manager will be considering. If Bailey's decisions are more about money than footy, exposure (playing for a big club in big games) probably means a lot more than on-field success or what the best 'footy' move would be. I'm sure Paul Connors is just as much considering 'Brand Bailey' as he is Bailey Smith the AFL footballer.
    Fair call, I'm more thinking along the lines of another indiscretion or if his form falls off a cliff he will have a significantly reduced capacity to commercialise his personal brand in the future.

    If he has a smart manager, he will push Smith to get the absolute best out of himself on the field because the returns off it will be astronomical. Bailey Smith the premiership hero can write his own cheques for future endorsements.
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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMahatma View Post
    As a completely 100% very much heterosexual male... Reese Walsh is pretty easy on the eye also.

    I can't imagine ever buying this stuff, but agree that it'll probably dominate the young female market for a bit (until the next thing comes along).
    It's good that you qualified your sexuality so thoroughly before you made that statement. Leaves everything beyond doubt!
    Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.

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    Re: Bailey Smith owns up to mistake with Luke Beveridge: ?I wasn?t good at just accepting my role?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    It's good that you qualified your sexuality so thoroughly before you made that statement. Leaves everything beyond doubt!
    I think he protesteth too much xD (not that there's anything wrong with that hey AB!)

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