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14-10-2023, 08:29 AM
#136
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Providing we can get him fit and he stays that way he should be able to slot into the side for us. 3 x 1st rounders doesn't happen often
There are a few gaps starting to appear in that draft group
#3 Paddy Dow is swapping teams after under-performing for the Blues
#6 Jaidyn Stephenson isn't meeting his potential and joined a 2nd club'
#7 Hunter Clark is an okay player but hasn't quite met his potential
#8 Nick Coffield looks very likely to land at the Kennel after missing 2 years of football
#10 Lockie O'Brien has been delisted by the Blues
#11 Aiden Bonner is in a holding pattern with North and might be delisted and it's his 2nd club
#13 Jarrod Brander is not on a list
#14 Matthew Ling is not on a list
A great illustration why draft picks are overrated, and why if you nail your first rounders (which we tend to) you’re going to get a significant advantage on others
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14-10-2023, 09:29 AM
#137
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
We did very well out of that draft with Naughton and Richards.
St Kilda’s talent identification hasn’t been great for a long time. I get they both were highly rated players, and injuries have played a part, however they just seem to draft types who don’t quite come on as expected despite all the pre draft plaudits.
Naughton and Richards are great examples that having a baseline fierce competitive edge is an excellent starting point for a footballer.
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14-10-2023, 09:42 AM
#138
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Providing we can get him fit and he stays that way he should be able to slot into the side for us. 3 x 1st rounders doesn't happen often
There are a few gaps starting to appear in that draft group
#3 Paddy Dow is swapping teams after under-performing for the Blues
#6 Jaidyn Stephenson isn't meeting his potential and joined a 2nd club'
#7 Hunter Clark is an okay player but hasn't quite met his potential
#8 Nick Coffield looks very likely to land at the Kennel after missing 2 years of football
#10 Lockie O'Brien has been delisted by the Blues
#11 Aiden Bonner is in a holding pattern with North and might be delisted and it's his 2nd club
#13 Jarrod Brander is not on a list
#14 Matthew Ling is not on a list
That's an average strike rate for top 15.
If you redid that draft you might just have Naughton as #1.
1. Naughton (9)
2. Taylor (28)
3. Kelly (24)
4. Brayshaw (2)
5. Rayner (1)
6. Cerra (5)
7. LDU (4)
8. Fritsch (31)
9. Ryan (26)
10. Petty (37)
Other notables Balta went at 25, Dekoning (blues) 30, Warpel (45), Oscar Allen (21), Miers (57), Richards (16), Oskar Baker (48).
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14-10-2023, 10:49 AM
#139
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Go_Dogs
We did very well out of that draft with Naughton and Richards.
St Kilda?s talent identification hasn?t been great for a long time. I get they both were highly rated players, and injuries have played a part, however they just seem to draft types who don?t quite come on as expected despite all the pre draft plaudits.
Naughton and Richards are great examples that having a baseline fierce competitive edge is an excellent starting point for a footballer.
At a certain point you have to wonder what element is talent identification and what element is development. Kind of amazing they are where they are having missed on so many first round picks and in theory would be a very strong team if they'd nailed just 2 more. Hell make that 1 if they pick Bont
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14-10-2023, 10:50 AM
#140
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
I think Richards is in the 10. Oscar Allen is ahead of Petty as well.
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14-10-2023, 10:59 AM
#141
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
I think Richards is in the 10. Oscar Allen is ahead of Petty as well.
Interesting.
I feel a woof segment coming on.
Oscar Allen is highly rated.
Who would you take out for Richards JD?
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14-10-2023, 11:09 AM
#142
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
hujsh
At a certain point you have to wonder what element is talent identification and what element is development. Kind of amazing they are where they are having missed on so many first round picks and in theory would be a very strong team if they'd nailed just 2 more. Hell make that 1 if they pick Bont
The players they picked weren't reaches at the time either.
Last edited by bulldogsthru&thru; 14-10-2023 at 12:22 PM.
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14-10-2023, 11:56 AM
#143
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Interesting.
I feel a woof segment coming on.
Oscar Allen is highly rated.
Who would you take out for Richards JD?
I'd question what Cam Rayner has actually done...never averaged over a goal per game, and only 8 times has he had over 20 touches in a game.
I think Allen would actually be picked in the top 5. 53 goals this year in a horrible team. He'll be an elite key forward for a decade.
Taylor, Kelly, Brayshaw, Ryan have all had AA years.
Naughton, Fritsch and Allen 50 goal seasons.
It's cerra, LDU, Ed, Rayner battling for the last three spots and I think I would choose Cerra, Rayner and Ed.
I don't rate Petty that highly.
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14-10-2023, 11:59 AM
#144
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
I'd question what Cam Rayner has actually done...never averaged over a goal per game, and only 8 times has he had over 20 touches in a game.
I think Allen would actually be picked in the top 5. 53 goals this year in a horrible team. He'll be an elite key forward for a decade.
Taylor, Kelly, Brayshaw, Ryan have all had AA years.
Naughton, Fritsch and Allen 50 goal seasons.
It's cerra, LDU, Ed, Rayner battling for the last three spots and I think I would choose Cerra, Rayner and Ed.
I don't rate Petty that highly.
Love your work.
Rayner has that explosive potential that can tear games apart, I rate that highly.
That's pretty huge from Allen, yes I concede on that one.
LDU I absolutely love.
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14-10-2023, 12:22 PM
#145
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Rayner has that explosive potential that can tear games apart, I rate that highly.
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And if he ever does it consistently he will be a good player
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14-10-2023, 12:32 PM
#146
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
1- Taylor
2- Naughton
3- Allen
4- Brayshaw
5- Ryan
6- Kelly
7- LDU
8- Cerra
9- Richards
10- Fritsch
Oscar Allen at a semi decent side wound be see as elite.
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14-10-2023, 01:07 PM
#147
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Love your work.
Rayner has that explosive potential that can tear games apart, I rate that highly.
That's pretty huge from Allen, yes I concede on that one.
LDU I absolutely love.
Yeh I think I'm actually going LDU over Rayner. I was posting quickly before my taking my bub to swimming lessons...blasted Rayner, then said he's in my top 10 anyway haha.
Rocco's list is pretty close to my thoughts.
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14-10-2023, 01:54 PM
#148
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
1- Taylor
2- Naughton
3- Allen
4- Brayshaw
5- Ryan
6- Kelly
7- LDU
8- Cerra
9- Richards
10- Fritsch
Oscar Allen at a semi decent side wound be see as elite.
Two defenders at one and two for you RJ. You get Geoff Southby in next years Norm Smith sweep
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14-10-2023, 02:03 PM
#149
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Providing we can get him fit and he stays that way he should be able to slot into the side for us. 3 x 1st rounders doesn't happen often
There are a few gaps starting to appear in that draft group
#3 Paddy Dow is swapping teams after under-performing for the Blues
#6 Jaidyn Stephenson isn't meeting his potential and joined a 2nd club'
#7 Hunter Clark is an okay player but hasn't quite met his potential
#8 Nick Coffield looks very likely to land at the Kennel after missing 2 years of football
#10 Lockie O'Brien has been delisted by the Blues
#11 Aiden Bonner is in a holding pattern with North and might be delisted and it's his 2nd club
#13 Jarrod Brander is not on a list
#14 Matthew Ling is not on a list
If we can get Coffield on the cheap and get him fit then we've made out like bandits from that draft
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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14-10-2023, 02:07 PM
#150
Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
That's an average strike rate for top 15.
If you redid that draft you might just have Naughton as #1.
1. Naughton (9)
2. Taylor (28)
3. Kelly (24)
4. Brayshaw (2)
5. Rayner (1)
6. Cerra (5)
7. LDU (4)
8. Fritsch (31)
9. Ryan (26)
10. Petty (37)
Other notables Balta went at 25, Dekoning (blues) 30, Warpel (45), Oscar Allen (21), Miers (57), Richards (16), Oskar Baker (48).
I'm still feeling ripped off after watching Terry DeKoning ( the dad of the brothers') play 31 of the most ordinary games ever for us in the early '80s that we didn't get them as some sort of compensation.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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