Welcome to the Kennel - Nick Coffield

[GVGjr]

We also had Easton playing in 2021, and while he wasn't in great form at the end of his career he still wasn't replaced.

That's a good point. Perhaps we see Coffield as a belated Easton Wood replacement.

[Mantis]

Not really a tall. 191cm, a tweener if we're playing him as a KPD. As you said Saints won't just say "Here you go" and do us a favour. It'll cost us more than what we'll get. We'd be better off investing in what we have and keep Crozier as the break glass player. We'd then have more draft points and potentially draft someone better.

Crozier is absolutely done as an AFL footballer with us and going back to him isn't an option that will see us improve... If Coffield can get his body right, he is a massive upgrade.

[The Pie Man]

This is a solid move, he’s now fit and is a proven senior defender - if he can stay fit, will help Richards with his capacity to intercept and run.

Also hoping for that second chance bounce. Massive Dogs nuffy growing up. Worth a shot

[G-Mo77]

Crozier is absolutely done as an AFL footballer with us and going back to him isn't an option that will see us improve... If Coffield can get his body right, he is a massive upgrade.

So lets hit the draft then? I'd rather do that and invest in Bus, JOD and Cleary than pay a 2nd - 3rd round pick for Coffield which is what they'll ask for.

[hujsh]

So lets hit the draft then? I'd rather do that and invest in Bus, JOD and Cleary than pay a 2nd - 3rd round pick for Coffield which is what they'll ask for.

Coffield is out of contract, hasn't played an AFL game since 2021 and has been offered a 1 year deal. Saints can ask for anything but in the end they'll probably take what they can get. Since he's not in high demand he can always go PSD and even if another club thinks they can match our terms (which St.Kilda hasn't hence why he's leaving) there are ways to manipulate things to get where you want to go.

[bulldogtragic]

Coffield is out of contract, hasn't played an AFL game since 2021 and has been offered a 1 year deal. Saints can ask for anything but in the end they'll probably take what they can get. Since he's not in high demand he can always go PSD and even if another club thinks they can match our terms (which St.Kilda hasn't hence why he's leaving) there are ways to manipulate things to get where you want to go.

No medicals at other clubs and he’s coming to us in the PSD or Pick 70 ND.

[Axe Man]

I think the majority of clubs work these lower end deals out in good faith without too much argy bargy. No threats of PSD or the like, it only comes back to bite you in future dealings.

[G-Mo77]

Coffield is out of contract, hasn't played an AFL game since 2021 and has been offered a 1 year deal. Saints can ask for anything but in the end they'll probably take what they can get. Since he's not in high demand he can always go PSD and even if another club thinks they can match our terms (which St.Kilda hasn't hence why he's leaving) there are ways to manipulate things to get where you want to go.

If it's virtually nothing, I'm happy. If we're paying overs, which is what I'm so concerned about I'll be livid. They're not going to give him to us for free hushj.

[hujsh]

I think the majority of clubs work these lower end deals out in good faith without too much argy bargy. No threats of PSD or the like, it only comes back to bite you in future dealings.

If it's virtually nothing, I'm happy. If we're paying overs, which is what I'm so concerned about I'll be livid. They're not going to give him to us for free hushj.

Big difference between what Axe Man is suggesting (most likely) and paying a second round pick. St Kilda have no leverage, we'll offer pick 50-60 or something or maybe even a pick swap of some sort/points BS and it'll get done. The only time I think we've paid overs under Power is Lobb who was still contracted. We won't get bent over for an out of contract player given all the other factors mentioned already

[bulldogtragic]

I think the majority of clubs work these lower end deals out in good faith without too much argy bargy. No threats of PSD or the like, it only comes back to bite you in future dealings.

If Saints play it right. They get 45 or so for Billings or someone else.

Dogs: 2 x 3rds, Coffield (150 or so more points for us)
Saints: Picks 36 & 70
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Saints: Henry
Freo: Pick 36


Saints use Coffield to turn two 3rds (not enough to get Henry) into a pick that does get Henry. Turning two players they’re not prepared to invest into Henry and a later pick. Freo get their second rounder for him. We take the money ball trade and some extra points.

If that’s not enough for all parties then I don’t know what is. I’d think the clubs would be mad not to do it and be happy enough.

[hujsh]

If Saints play it right. They get 45 or so for Billings or someone else.

Dogs: 2 x 3rds, Coffield (150 or so more points for us)
Saints: Picks 36 & 70
>
Saints: Henry
Freo: Pick 36


Saints use Coffield to turn two 3rds (not enough to get Henry) into a pick that does get Henry. Turning two players they’re not prepared to invest into Henry and a later pick. Freo get their second rounder for him. We take the money ball trade and some extra points.

If that’s not enough for all parties then I don’t know what is. I’d think the clubs would be mad not to do it and be happy enough.

Normally losing 36 would be an issue but (assuming we trade up before Croft) it's all moot as long as we have points instead so it works.

[bulldogtragic]

Normally losing 36 would be an issue but (assuming we trade up before Croft) it's all moot as long as we have points instead so it works.

Yep. 36 is a bargaining chip this year. I’m 100% certain it will be traded no matter what with GCS as we desperately need more points at this stage. If Saints want/need it for Henry, then I’m happy to help them out for Coffield and about 150 extra points at least.

[lemmon]

Yep. 36 is a bargaining chip this year. I’m 100% certain it will be traded no matter what with GCS as we desperately need more points at this stage. If Saints want/need it for Henry, then I’m happy to help them out for Coffield and about 150 extra points at least.

Thanks for that BT - does it work if Freo don't accept 36 for Henry? Freo sound like they're going to play hardball and extract as much value as they can for him.

[bulldogtragic]

Thanks for that BT - does it work if Freo don't accept 36 for Henry? Freo sound like they're going to play hardball and extract as much value as they can for him.

That’s not so much our problem after we do our deal. If the Saints calculus is Pick 36 (2nd round) is fair compensation then Saints should take our pick and deal with Freo. If they need to sweeten it, they can make their own decision (say swap 41 & 32 too). But a couple of third rounders will absolutely not get Henry under any circumstances. Our Pick 36 could unlock that trade as Saints also want to hit the draft. We can give them that chance - for a price.

[mjp]

This is a solid move, he’s now fit and is a proven senior defender

Do you really think he's a proven senior defender PM?

I don't disagree that he's worth a shot, but proven?

We should be giving up ZERO for this player.