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Re: Rating the 2023 Trade Period
It's hard to rate because Harmes and Coffield are marginal changes (lots of credit for gaining points while bringing the latter in though) so it all depends on what happens on draft night (nights?). Who we get at 6, what points we have left after Croft, whether we get Lual and the circumstances around that, whether we manage to trade up into an earlier part of the draft somehow. Still a lot of variables that will inform the success of the trade period.
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So far we have hit all our targets , Harmes, Coffield, higher pick and more picks to cover Croft.
It’s a pass mark at the minute , we would have to make a huge stuff up to wreck it , we won’t know though for a couple of years when we see how Croft and our high pick perform .
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Re: Rating the 2023 Trade Period
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I will update it as it as it progresses:
Done:
3 x Firsts - for - Pick 5 and 2 x Thirds & F3 (kept)
Harmes for a F3 (ours)
Coffield and net gain of draft points which cancels out the F4 (FREE)
Sweet for Pick 50
Draft Points to cover Croft & Lual
Trades In:
Harmes (F3 tied to Dogs)
Coffield (Effectively free)
Lots of draft points
Trade Out:
Sweet - Pick 50
I?d suggest this is us.
Harmes will cost around maybe Pick 50 (Sweet got us Pick 50) = Harmes for Sweet
Coffield for free
So far:
Croft for Bruce
Coffield for TOB
Harmes for McLean
Pick 6 Kid for Hannan
Lual (?) for Sweet
New deals for Naughton, Duryea & Khamis.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
So far:
Croft for Bruce
Coffield for TOB
Harmes for McLean
Pick 6 Kid for Hannan
Lual (?) for Sweet
If we're being brutally honest, none of the outgoings made a lick of difference to our senior team this season. We have literally lost nothing in terms of on-field impact.
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Sedat
If we're being brutally honest, none of the outgoings made a lick of difference to our senior team this season. We have literally lost nothing in terms of on-field impact.
Absolutely. The ins are notionally better, just not drastically better at this stage to say. If we can get Watson/Sanders, Croft & Lual it’s an investment in the medium term rather than short term. If Harmes & Coffield can surprise then that’s a plus.
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Re: Rating the 2023 Trade Period
Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun
Dogs will feel like they have had a very solid trade period. Signed up AstroNaut, got pick 4, got in Harmes-Coffield for depth, have the points for father-son Jordan Croft. Lose Sweet and a future first but still good business. Now to get Sam Darcy fit...
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Re: Rating the 2023 Trade Period
Sam Landsberger: 8/10
IN: James Harmes (Melbourne), Nick Coffield (St Kilda)
OUT: Jordon Sweet (Port Adelaide)
PICKS: 5, 48, 52, 53, 56, 69, 72, 75
The Bulldogs’ 2026 backbone should be filled exclusively with first-round picks –Tim English (207cm), Sam Darcy (205cm), Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (197cm), Aaron Naughton (195cm), Jedd Busslinger (196cm) and Jordan Croft (200cm). Has the AFL ever seen a spine saturated with so much elite talent? Dogs list boss Sam Power declared there would be room for all of them in the same side due to their differing attributes, and the baton change will be well-timed if Darcy, Croft and Busslinger emerge as Liam Jones, Alex Keath and Rory Lobb wind down. The Dogs were delighted to add a defensive midfielder in Harmes and a versatile defender in Coffield, who placed fifth in St Kilda’s 2020 best-and-fairest before he was ambushed by injury. The trade of picks with Gold Coast will turn tangible when the Dogs deliver a one-two draft punch – bringing in potentially Nick Watson at No.5 and matching a father-son bid on Croft in the first round. Does English require an understudy to substitute for Sweet? Premiership ruckman Scott Lycett is pondering whether to retire or play on as that stop-gap solution.
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Essendon win the trade period .. 20 years in a row now with not one finals win in that time.
Incredible effort by Dodoro.
Does that mean the development at bombers is atrocious ?
The media are really giving back handed compliments to that club.
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My concern is every year Gold Coast picks and players seems to go for unders. Not this year for us. I hope pick 5 and Croft are stars.
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My concern is every year Gold Coast picks and players seems to go for unders. Not this year for us. I hope pick 5 and Croft are stars.
I’ve said it last week, the end will justify the means. If Watson/Sanders & Croft turn into guns no one will think about this trade. On the other hand… so let’s hope the lads live up to their hype.
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Interesting we have an offer in front of Lycett. Still lean towards him being a good one year backup in case English gets injured (concussed) and Lobb is proving to be valuable up forward and we want to leave him there. Add a rookie with a year to learn in the AFL environment and no pressure to debut before being ready and there's something resembling a plan in place
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Interesting we have an offer in front of Lycett. Still lean towards him being a good one year backup in case English gets injured (concussed) and Lobb is proving to be valuable up forward and we want to leave him there. Add a rookie with a year to learn in the AFL environment and no pressure to debut before being ready and there's something resembling a plan in place
Main list/rookie list do you know?
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Originally Posted by
hujsh
Interesting we have an offer in front of Lycett. Still lean towards him being a good one year backup in case English gets injured (concussed) and Lobb is proving to be valuable up forward and we want to leave him there. Add a rookie with a year to learn in the AFL environment and no pressure to debut before being ready and there's something resembling a plan in place
We do? How do you know that? If it's the Landsberger article above I think he's just spitballing about us potentially signing a backup ruck. Or has it been reported elsewhere?
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Originally Posted by
hujsh
Interesting we have an offer in front of Lycett. Still lean towards him being a good one year backup in case English gets injured (concussed) and Lobb is proving to be valuable up forward and we want to leave him there. Add a rookie with a year to learn in the AFL environment and no pressure to debut before being ready and there's something resembling a plan in place
If we are planning on having Lycett one year to back up English , reading between the lines means we don’t think English is going anywhere at contracts end or we would be looking around for a player who would be around longer than a year .
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Re: Rating the 2023 Trade Period
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hujsh
Interesting we have an offer in front of Lycett. Still lean towards him being a good one year backup in case English gets injured (concussed) and Lobb is proving to be valuable up forward and we want to leave him there. Add a rookie with a year to learn in the AFL environment and no pressure to debut before being ready and there's something resembling a plan in place
Lycetts manager nominated a couple of clubs but I don't think we were one of them.
Other media sources suggest St Kilda, Collingwood and Geelong as might being interested.
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