Melbourne Watch 2023/24

[Sedat]

I'll be more clear. No one wants to go be and talk about Covid stuff. We've all moved on. This is not the place to relitigate it if you are determined to do so.

I'm happy to have made the relevant point (specific to these latest Melbourne whistle-blower allegations) that doctor/patient confidentiality and individual patient health and welfare is suddenly once again very much back in vogue, because it most certainly wasn't a short time ago (to our collective shame, mine included) - that is a most welcome development as far as I'm concerned, and one that I hope never is under threat ever again. If you don't learn from history you are destined to repeat it. Move on by all means, but heed the lessons.

[SquirrelGrip]

I get it BAD but nobody can detail an alternative that effectively maintains confidentiality.

Well I think this is exactly what we need to work on and figure out.

Every player who is now injured or a late withdrawal is now viewed as a possible positive test. Who missed last week for Footscray? Scott and Busslinger? Are they now tarred with that brush?

And surely the coaches and high performance must have some idea when players are withdrawn by the doctor. What is the player's rehab plan if they have a "tight hammy" when it's actually a positive test?

[Grantysghost]

Well I think this is exactly what we need to work on and figure out.

Every player who is now injured or a late withdrawal is now viewed as a possible positive test. Who missed last week for Footscray? Scott and Busslinger? Are they now tarred with that brush?

And surely the coaches and high performance must have some idea when players are withdrawn by the doctor. What is the player's rehab plan if they have a "tight hammy" when it's actually a positive test?

JHF and Steele Sidebottom this week "managed".

They've placed everyone under suspicion with this crazy lying idea.

[jeemak]

Again, if this is so crazy what?s the alternative?

[EasternWest]

Again, if this is so crazy what?s the alternative?

Free coke for all?

[Axe Man]

JHF and Steele Sidebottom this week "managed".

They've placed everyone under suspicion with this crazy lying idea.

They should have just said omitted for Sidebottom, he was awful last week.

[Axe Man]

Again, if this is so crazy what?s the alternative?

[Grantysghost]

Again, if this is so crazy what?s the alternative?

Not lying? That's the bit, as in they had a hammy when they didn't.
Just say unavailable or personal reasons.

[Grantysghost]

Free coke for all?

I'm so conservative i want to go back to when coca cola had cocaine.

[jeemak]

Not lying? That's the bit, as in they had a hammy when they didn't.
Just say unavailable or personal reasons.

But that makes me think they?re on drugs.

[hujsh]

I'm happy to have made the relevant point (specific to these latest Melbourne whistle-blower allegations) that doctor/patient confidentiality and individual patient health and welfare is suddenly once again very much back in vogue, because it most certainly wasn't a short time ago (to our collective shame, mine included) - that is a most welcome development as far as I'm concerned, and one that I hope never is under threat ever again. If you don't learn from history you are destined to repeat it. Move on by all means, but heed the lessons.

It's not relevant at all. I find it a bit rich lecturing someone else to learn the lessons of history given a different conversation in another thread, but that's an even further derailment.

[hujsh]

Again, if this is so crazy what?s the alternative?

Remove the existing policy and otherwise continue as is. You can't have the '3 strikes' BS and also be testing players positive so they can avoid gameday positive tests.

[Grantysghost]

But that makes me think they?re on drugs.

Haha gold.
That's the issue isnt it.

[Sedat]

If the policy simply alters the definition of "on game day" to cover the whole AFEL season, that takes away any nefarious secrecy accusations and preserves the individual player health and welfare aspect of the policy.

I'm more concerned (but utterly unsurprised) that one sole politician from one specific electorate, who has a personal beef with the AFEL, has used parliamentary privilege to create division within the community purely to benefit his own political objectives. That's about the only thing that politicians are especially good at doing (apart from spending other people's money of course).

[Bulldog Joe]

Remove the existing policy and otherwise continue as is. You can't have the '3 strikes' BS and also be testing players positive so they can avoid gameday positive tests.

This is pertinent.

Just get rid of the three strikes policy and worry about game day.

If they withdraw players who would test positive I don't see an issue.

Where there is criminal conduct it is a police matter. Sport just requires competitors to be clean for competition.