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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Great group.
Jacko will be relieved I reckon.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Great group.
Jacko will be relieved I reckon.
McNeil stiff.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Look I wasn't sure where to plonk this but the chest gradients on our current training merch make it look like the boys went and splurged on some fake tits in the offseason and I'm afraid I now can't unsee it.
Anyway more power to them they look fabulous.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Look I wasn't sure where to plonk this but the chest gradients on our current training merch make it look like the boys went and splurged on some fake tits in the offseason and I'm afraid I now can't unsee it.
Anyway more power to them they look fabulous.
What has been seen can not be unseen
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
McNeil stiff.
Think he was just outside that group.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
I don't mind changes in the leadership group and that we are a bit creative with the setup of it but are we essentially agreeing that perhaps the more quiet Macrae wasn't a great selection?
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I don't mind changes in the leadership group and that we are a bit creative with the setup of it but are we essentially agreeing that perhaps the more quiet Macrae wasn't a great selection?
Did you watch the video on how the players were selected? it is a members only video.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Did you watch the video on how the players were selected? it is a members only video.
Yep, I watched it
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I don't mind changes in the leadership group and that we are a bit creative with the setup of it but are we essentially agreeing that perhaps the more quiet Macrae wasn't a great selection?
I think that summation is correct. He never seemed someone who would embrace the role, and given his challenges on-field last year he certainly didn?t ?lead? the way through performance and impact.
I?m extremely surprised that Libba has been brought into the leadership group after an 8 year gap and thrust straight into the VC position? nothing against Libba as the respect levels about how he plays is high, but for me it?s a strange decision? just as the Macrae one was 2 years back.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
Mantis
I think that summation is correct. He never seemed someone who would embrace the role, and given his challenges on-field last year he certainly didn?t ?lead? the way through performance and impact.
I?m extremely surprised that Libba has been brought into the leadership group after an 8 year gap and thrust straight into the VC position? nothing against Libba as the respect levels about how he plays is high, but for me it?s a strange decision? just as the Macrae one was 2 years back.
I think Libba has matured quite a bit in the last few years. Having a kid has probably accelerated that as well. He's a leader in his actions on the field and he's a smart guy. Being a senior players I think a few of the younger guys look up to him so I don't mind the selection. Perhaps there were issues with on field leadership (Macrae?) and this is a way to get a strong and vocal personality into the leadership group. Nothing against macrae but as others have said, perhaps he's just the quiet type whose leadership doesn't translate on the footy field
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
Mantis
I think that summation is correct. He never seemed someone who would embrace the role, and given his challenges on-field last year he certainly didn?t ?lead? the way through performance and impact.
I?m extremely surprised that Libba has been brought into the leadership group after an 8 year gap and thrust straight into the VC position? nothing against Libba as the respect levels about how he plays is high, but for me it?s a strange decision? just as the Macrae one was 2 years back.
We brought in Geary with plenty of leadership experience at the AFL club level and some corporate experience with consultancy and training as well and I assume we have done this because there were some gaps in our programme.
Bontempelli excels as player and a leader of this playing group and has a significant presence with our supporters and in the media.
Where we have had some struggles is the group under him. The likes of Trengove, Hunter, Dunkley, Wallis, Macrae and I feel like I'm missing someone else have come and gone quickly for a variety of reasons. Wallis in particular couldn't crack it for a consistent senior game but from all accounts was a great deputy for Bont.
Libba's reemergence is well deserved based on his changing approach to his football. The players seem to respond to him which is important. Naughton is making a lot of progress so it's good to have him locked in for the long haul. Richards is probably close to being a genuine leader and Daniel is a rock solid leader.
I'm intrigued by Duryea's retention in the leadership group given he might struggle with a best 22 type role this year and what drove the promotion for Liam Jones.
I think we might be under utilising Treloar and if Tim signs a long term deal we need to push him up the order/
We have the likes of JOD and Weightman coming though so the balance of older and younger players looks okay.
Geary has a bit to work with in this group.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
I think Libba has matured quite a bit in the last few years. Having a kid has probably accelerated that as well. He's a leader in his actions on the field and he's a smart guy. Being a senior players I think a few of the younger guys look up to him so I don't mind the selection. Perhaps there were issues with on field leadership (Macrae?) and this is a way to get a strong and vocal personality into the leadership group. Nothing against macrae but as others have said, perhaps he's just the quiet type whose leadership doesn't translate on the footy field
Nah, the leadership process as outlined in the video (watch here) was a process put together through Geary, and the players. The players then use that criteria to vote who they want.
Agree Macrae is the quiet type, and the players decided he didn't meet the criteria on the type of leaders they want.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Nah, the leadership process as outlined in the video (
watch here) was a process put together through Geary, and the players. The players then use that criteria to vote who they want.
Agree Macrae is the quiet type, and the players decided he didn't meet the criteria on the type of leaders they want.
Thanks. But this shows to me exactly why a Libba has come into the group and a Macrae has come out of it.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Regarding Duryea, my thoughts are that his voice and support is still loud and respected. He probably knows he will play more as a backup this year and his leadership will be really important for the emerging players in the twos. Also to VFL players now that Sullivan has gone.
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Re: Leadership Group for 2024 - Who do you pick?
Interestingly there has been a lot of discussion around the older players mentoring our younger players.
Bevo mentioned it today in he press conference, Treloar has openly said he has taken Sanders under his wing, Liberatore is mentoring Gallagher.
Im sure it has happened in previous years but other than Bontempelli and Marra I didn’t hear too much outside of this.
More of an In Bruges guy?