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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    From Marra's point of view if he starts the season on fire maybe he pushes his price up. Can't blame players for maximising their contracts. The season hasn't even started yet, if we are still waiting for a decision come August that's a different story.
    It's just crap. Put in a performance clause and he can earn more. There are ways and means.

    Back in 1985, Simon Beasley was put on a performance contract and got ex amount per goal he kicked. Ended up with over 100.

    The distraction of three players is hard to take.
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    I doubt there is a team that hasn't inquired about his interests in leaving us but perhaps the Hawks have been the most persistent.
    For what it's worth the body language and the way he connects with players at the training sessions and match days etc would indicate he's very content at the Kennel. He also seems to have a real bond with Naughton.

    It's always difficult to predict what players might do but the signs look positive about him staying.
    Wise of the club to sign Naughty long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    It's just crap. Put in a performance clause and he can earn more. There are ways and means.

    Back in 1985, Simon Beasley was put on a performance contract and got ex amount per goal he kicked. Ended up with over 100.

    The distraction of three players is hard to take.
    I imagine clubs have to be very careful with performance clauses due to a little thing called the salary cap. Have too many and you risk blowing up your cap. Per goal bonuses are an awful incentive (I've heard of them in local footy). Forwards are greedy enough as it is, don't want to encourage them to be even more selfish.

    It's also no individual players concern the contract status of other players.

    It's the AFL landscape whether we like it or not, no point yelling at clouds.

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    The ****ing season is just getting started and we are going to get these so called journos speculating the whole season till they sign up.
    It's hard. I think this is the sort of article that gets clicks hence the producers want it and the jouro's write it.

    I'm more interested in what Jamarra does this year right now than any contract he might sign but I think across the media consuming 'market' mine is a minority view.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    I imagine clubs have to be very careful with performance clauses due to a little thing called the salary cap. Have too many and you risk blowing up your cap. Per goal bonuses are an awful incentive (I've heard of them in local footy). Forwards are greedy enough as it is, don't want to encourage them to be even more selfish.

    It's also no individual players concern the contract status of other players.

    It's the AFL landscape whether we like it or not, no point yelling at clouds.
    That performance clause was an example, I wasn't advocating that particular one. Footy is differfent these days.

    I have the right to yell at the clouds
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Quote Originally Posted by mjp View Post
    It's hard. I think this is the sort of article that gets clicks hence the producers want it and the jouro's write it.

    I'm more interested in what Jamarra does this year right now than any contract he might sign but I think across the media consuming 'market' mine is a minority view.
    I know, I know.

    I will refuse to click those articles.
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Marra is the only one I'm confident in staying. I think English already has one foot out the door and Bailey will likely walk as well. The injury might change things around a little though and may scare off some suitors.

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Is there a way I can mute contract talk from all aspects of my life until October?
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    Is there a way I can mute contract talk from all aspects of my life until October?
    Borrow Gvg's tent and go live in the remote Tasmanian wilderness?

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan?s signature

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    The art of the deal?

    I get it, also get its frustrating for fans.

    I can't see why Baz wouldn't have signed by now, not like anything is going to change.
    Think you've answered your own question...

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Who determines that Hawthorn are 'in the race' for Marra? Anyone can nominate themselves for a race...doesn't mean they'll finish on the podium.

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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    Who determines that Hawthorn are 'in the race' for Marra? Anyone can nominate themselves for a race...doesn't mean they'll finish on the podium.
    Nomination doesn't even get you in the race.
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Were you ROCKED by this SHOCKING update that left other fans REELING?
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    This screams of an agent planted story to try and squeeze a little more out of us
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    Re: Victorian rival enters the race for Ugle-Hagan's signature

    Clickbait Clickbait Clickbait

    Players come and players go. Yep will be p*ssed and will reserve the right to boo him if it transpires, but I am more concerned with him being that vital cog in our tilt for a flag this year. God I would love if we made the GF and played Brissy and beat them......

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