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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    I'm convinced the Suns have the best starting midfield in the competition.
    Melbourne do... and it's not even a closely run race.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    If Bevo has the balls he should be making 6-8 changes this week.

    His promise that would be the best prepared Rd 1 team turned out to be a lie based on the poor efforts of the players he chose. He should be turning over the team until he gets a group of players who are going to play like they care, and not on their own terms.

    Players in the gun should be McNeil, VDM, Treloar, Williams, Khamis, Gallagher & Libba who either or couldn't execute to the level required or didn't show any desire to defend.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    Oh whoops, I stuffed up with him. I think he is someone who we need mobility over height with though.
    How about someone with both, like Naughton.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    I'm convinced the Suns have the best starting midfield in the competition.
    Potentially 100%, maybe in a few years with a few more years of Hardwick guiding them and you can see that in the first two rounds how bloody exciting they will be, scary.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    I think Adz needs to find somewhere else to play. I don't mind him getting CBAs but he is almost full time there whilst others have to find different roles.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    I think Adz needs to find somewhere else to play. I don't mind him getting CBAs but he is almost full time there whilst others have to find different roles.
    I think he would make a very good HBF - ala Moyd. He played that role a couple of years ago when we had injuries and he was very good. Finds alot of the ball and can use his pace to attack.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    If Bevo has the balls he should be making 6-8 changes this week.

    His promise that would be the best prepared Rd 1 team turned out to be a lie based on the poor efforts of the players he chose. He should be turning over the team until he gets a group of players who are going to play like they care, and not on their own terms.

    Players in the gun should be McNeil, VDM, Treloar, Williams, Khamis, Gallagher & Libba who either or couldn't execute to the level required or didn't show any desire to defend.
    Knowing Bevo having balls means picking VDM or McNeil or no CHB again.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Days View Post
    I?m really worried about their midfield. Miller has an unreal tank, Rowell is a wrecking ball, Flanders is a slightly less destructive wrecking ball and Anderson is the total inside outside package 3 out of every 4 games.

    I would be bringing in Macrae without a second thought. We?re going to need all hands on deck.
    Same here. Macrae should be an inclusion.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    I've thought more about this and my feel is we won't react in an extreme way this week and I can see them giving this group another week to prove themselves.

    Probably only change will be forced.

    Harmes out
    Garcia / Macrae in.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I think he would make a very good HBF - ala Moyd. He played that role a couple of years ago when we had injuries and he was very good. Finds alot of the ball and can use his pace to attack.
    Biggest issue is the same as the one with him as an inside mid, he is only there to get the ball and run. He really has an unwillingness/inability to work defensively.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    Biggest issue is the same as the one with him as an inside mid, he is only there to get the ball and run. He really has an unwillingness/inability to work defensively.
    I know Treloar is one of the more blatant offenders, but I'm not seeing amazing defensive workrate when the oppo is in possession from any of our mids in the last couple of seasons.

    Defending when the opposition has the ball has to be a non-negotiable for the entire 23 selected every week. It's no longer just specific role-players who do this grunt work - it needs to be everyone from Bont down. And we've largely stunk at it for a while, hence why we are a talented but middling team with conditional efforts quarter to quarter, let alone week to week. And why I hope that we conducted such a thorough review and turned over the assistant coaching and F&C staff in the off-season, in an effort to become a much better turnover and pressure team who is much harder to score against and significantly fitter and stronger to execute this week to week. On that score round 1 was a big swing and a miss, and round 2 simply has to be much better in this area.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I think he would make a very good HBF - ala Moyd. He played that role a couple of years ago when we had injuries and he was very good. Finds alot of the ball and can use his pace to attack.
    Was that when JJ went down? Happy to be corrected, but my very vague recollection of that was Treloar having bulk goals kicked on him, and he sounded pretty bemused about the move when he spoke about it with Dunkley on their pod at the time.

    I'm a bit worried for Treloar, he's a mid that relies heavily on his running power and capacity, when that starts to go I think the end will come quickly.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    We had numerous reports from preseason that there was a strong focus on what players should be doing when we don't have possession.

    Do we just have the dumbest footballers in the league?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    I know Treloar is one of the more blatant offenders, but I'm not seeing amazing defensive workrate when the oppo is in possession from any of our mids in the last couple of seasons.

    Defending when the opposition has the ball has to be a non-negotiable for the entire 23 selected every week. It's no longer just specific role-players who do this grunt work - it needs to be everyone from Bont down. And we've largely stunk at it for a while, hence why we are a talented but middling team with conditional efforts quarter to quarter, let alone week to week. And why I hope that we conducted such a thorough review and turned over the assistant coaching and F&C staff in the off-season, in an effort to become a much better turnover and pressure team who is much harder to score against and significantly fitter and stronger to execute this week to week. On that score round 1 was a big swing and a miss, and round 2 simply has to be much better in this area.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 2 vs Gold Coast Suns

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmon View Post
    Was that when JJ went down? Happy to be corrected, but my very vague recollection of that was Treloar having bulk goals kicked on him, and he sounded pretty bemused about the move when he spoke about it with Dunkley on their pod at the time.

    I'm a bit worried for Treloar, he's a mid that relies heavily on his running power and capacity, when that starts to go I think the end will come quickly.
    Look you are probably right. I was just trying to think about how to use Treloar. He gets alot of the ball but is not effective.
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