Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

[azabob]

Marra was terrible. He started off the ground and might as well stayed off the ground.

Had an opportunity to keep us in it but pissed it against the wall.

Extremely disappointed in his effort and game tonight.

[macca]

I don't know what money Chol is on, but I watched him tonight as he seemed to be the wiping boy from Hawks supporters. He went for the pack marks, but did not clunk them. 1-1 against Lobb, he got beaten . At least he brought the ball to the ground for the small forwards. He was like the utlimate foil up forward, like an anti-forward.

If I compare his stats to JUH, both are in the bottom 3 players , with Breust being the last . At least Chol brought in his team mates and was involved in a few goal assists and his effort was there.

[angelopetraglia]

I don't know what money Chol is on, but I watched him tonight as he seemed to be the wiping boy from Hawks supporters. He went for the pack marks, but did not clunk them. 1-1 against Lobb, he got beaten . At least he brought the ball to the ground for the small forwards. He was like the utlimate foil up forward, like an anti-forward.

If I compare his stats to JUH, both are in the bottom 3 players , with Breust being the last . At least Chol brought in his team mates and was involved in a few goal assists and his effort was there.

I have zero doubt, if Marra got as many looks as Chol tonight he would have kicked a bag. Hawks had 20 more entries and how much cleaner ball did they have.

[GVGjr]

Marra was terrible. He started off the ground and might as well stayed off the ground.

Had an opportunity to keep us in it but pissed it against the wall.

Extremely disappointed in his effort and game tonight.

It's how his effort and energy level looked last night that was really disappointing but it's hard to put an exact reason why he didn't perform.

[Grantysghost]

It's how his effort and energy level looked last night that was really disappointing but it's hard to put an exact reason why he didn't perform.

Above the shoulders, he needed an instinct play to get his confidence up but unfortunately our biggest issue, the midfield, turned up their toes when challenged. Again.
He just didn't get the looks.

[1eyedog]

It's how his effort and energy level looked last night that was really disappointing but it's hard to put an exact reason why he didn't perform.

How about the ball was kicked into his vicinity like 3 times?

Yes he was laconic last night and should have taken his chance when it presented but you can't control anything if the ball doesn't come anywhere near you for most of the night.

[soupman]

How about the ball was kicked into his vicinity like 3 times?

Yes a factor.

I do think Jamarra is a bit all or nothing. He flies for marks but unless he ends up in prime position he is terrible at evening out the contest or having an impact that isn't with him as prime marking candidate.

Often gets held out, and while I sympathise that service to him is often not ideal it never is going to be. Would really like to stop seeing him lose marking contests 4-5 times a game and then spend the next 10 seconds whinging towards his team mate.

Needs to be more physical, and better at knowing when to try to kill the contest.

[bulldogtragic]

Yes a factor.

I do think Jamarra is a bit all or nothing. He flies for marks but unless he ends up in prime position he is terrible at evening out the contest or having an impact that isn't with him as prime marking candidate.

Often gets held out, and while I sympathise that service to him is often not ideal it never is going to be. Would really like to stop seeing him lose marking contests 4-5 times a game and then spend the next 10 seconds whinging towards his team mate.

Needs to be more physical, and better at knowing when to try to kill the contest.

I’m really sick of seeing him mouth off at his team mates. It’s a shit look.

[JanLorMill]

I’m really sick of seeing him mouth off at his team mates. It’s a shit look.

Sorry I was up with the gods. Where when who?

[azabob]

Sorry I was up with the gods. Where when who?

Seriously - You need specific examples?

He does it every week when things go wrong.

[bulldogtragic]

Sorry I was up with the gods. Where when who?

He does it most games. Throws arms around and sprays whoever misses the kick.

[Hotdog60]

I think its time for Spangher to go and we need a forward coach that can get these player performing better. We shouldn't need Johnson to come in if the a forward coach knows his craft.

[Boots]

I’m tired of the Marra hype. He had one completely brilliant game earlier in the year where he tore it apart and silenced his critics (me). I remember I’d been calling for trading him and I posted “I was wrong” but now I don’t think I was.

I don’t like watching him play 3 games out of 4. I don’t trust him to take marks or kick goals.

I think his spot would be better filled by a defensive small forward and he’s probably the only tradeable asset we have with enough capital to secure one.

[soupman]

I think our forward line for most of this season worked the best it has in years.

We actually started to generate space, talls weren't constantly going for the same balls (still happened a lot but less), and I thought we generated easier scoring shots.

Some of that may just have been the emergence of a stupid tall kid that takes marks in good spots, but I'm not top upset with how it's performed for the most part.

Also Spangher is as responsible for goalkicking as our midfield coach is for hitouts. Neither should really be their thing to have to sort out, and having a specialist coach for goalkicking makes so much sense that I'm amazed that after years of advocating for it we have people here wanting it to revert back to the lowest priority of a line coach again.

[1eyedog]

Yes a factor.

I do think Jamarra is a bit all or nothing. He flies for marks but unless he ends up in prime position he is terrible at evening out the contest or having an impact that isn't with him as prime marking candidate.

Often gets held out, and while I sympathise that service to him is often not ideal it never is going to be. Would really like to stop seeing him lose marking contests 4-5 times a game and then spend the next 10 seconds whinging towards his team mate.

Needs to be more physical, and better at knowing when to try to kill the contest.

Yeah that's all fair enough.

In his defence all I'll say is that he's done some very, very good things this year and his season generally was a big improvement on last year. I think we might be expecting alot from him given he's still very young and raw.