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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Thanks for your insight DT.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by dog town View Post
    Big difference is that these guys are getting the best treatment in the business 3 times a day compared with my going to the physio whenever I could get out of work early. I would certainly expect the agility and confidence of the players to be down early on in the comebacks but once they get 7-10 games into them then I would expect them to start having an impact. I made my comeback late in a season and really struggled but a full pre season really helps and our players all got a good pre season in to get confidence in the joints. Agility and turning circle was my most effected area. The other thing is that your muscles really tighten up which leaves you open to soft tissue injuries which is what Darcy is trying to manage right now.

    Pretty sure Port had a few knee victims in one season and possibly West Coast or Freo 3 or 4 years back when Subi was churning out knee victims every week. Hopefully the fact that Hahn is coming back a little later means we are not carrying to many guys with demons from their injuries. Best case scenario would have Darcy and Murphy close to their best by the time Hahn comes back.
    Thanks - interersting.

    With a loss of agility and turning circle this would restrict what position they should play? eg HF line could be tricky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Thanks - interersting.

    With a loss of agility and turning circle this would restrict what position they should play? eg HF line could be tricky.
    Yeah definetly which is the biggest concern with Murphy. IMO Murphs biggest strength is his agility and balance. Eade said something pretty encouraging the other day along the lines of all the testing they have done seems to indicate that his agility is at about the same level as it was prior to his knee. Encouraging for the fact that he seems to be moving alright and also that Eade is obviously very aware that agility is a big factor for Murphy.

    I found that when I was down back I was getting turned around by opponents alot and losing them when they turned around and ran straight towards goal. As a forward it was difficult to turn back at goal but atleast I had most of the authority as to where me and my opponent went. Could make a case for Eade easing Murph back into things off the half backline where I think he is still a wonderful player. We can probably get away with it for a little while with Aker , Darcy and Doogs coming in and Cooney likely to spend even more time forward.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    What about hahn and darcy?
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    Hahn is a bash and crash type and loves to run in straight lines anyway so provided he has confidence in terms of getting contact on his knee I think he will be right. To be honest my main concern with Mitch is that he struggles to get his match fitness up sometimes and he is a player that really needs to be fit so that he can give us those second and third efforts where he can really change a game. Would prefer him playing full games on the ball at Werribee for a while before he comes back. Will be right to play similar role to what he was playing I would suggest.

    Darcy could be a problem mentally given that he has done it twice. I think his role will be limited to a deep forward early on. Dont expect to see him turning anyone inside out after picking the ball up off his bootlaces. His unbelievable strength should mean he is still dangerous as a long target until his mobility gets better. I once read Jamie Charman saying that Darcy is the strongest body on body player he has faced. Backline not really an option for Darcy. If his knee can hold up to ruckwork then a run around the ground getting a few cheap kicks would do wonders for his confidence. Really we just want him to be coming good for the business end and anything else is a bonus.

    As a side note I cant help but wonder what impact the new rules will have on Darcy and Johnson. Both masters at nudging out opponents. Hope the umps dont enforce them to strictly.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Wouldn't an ill-timed crash and bash from Hahn put presuure on his knee?
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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Wouldn't an ill-timed crash and bash from Hahn put presuure on his knee?
    Probably not as much as the pressure he'd be under from the tribunal.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Rot View Post
    Wouldn't an ill-timed crash and bash from Hahn put presuure on his knee?
    I didn't find the actual physical contact to be much of a worry especially running straight. Hahn tends to just put his head down and go straight through. Even mentally I didn't really think about copping a knock on it or anything. I suppose the danger is if someone falls across his leg the wrong way but the chances are small.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    Probably not as much as the pressure he'd be under from the tribunal.


    Isn't the new "Guido-Kosi" rule silly and soft?
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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by dog town View Post
    I didn't find the actual physical contact to be much of a worry especially running straight. Hahn tends to just put his head down and go straight through. Even mentally I didn't really think about copping a knock on it or anything. I suppose the danger is if someone falls across his leg the wrong way but the chances are small.
    OK, then what are the danger moves onfield? Sudden turning? Mishaps in marking contests?

    How do most who do their knee a second time, do it?
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    I think young Higgins is going to be sensational this year. I really loved the way he played the few games last year and he is a ball magnet. Watch him shine this year.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I think young Higgins is going to be sensational this year. I really loved the way he played the few games last year and he is a ball magnet. Watch him shine this year.


    How good was he on friday? Just knocked up finding space-at times he'd got 20-30metres away from his direct opponent. One time when he'd got away on the wing and gilbee hit him on the chest and running from a kick out that must have travelled 70 metres was brilliant.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by dog town View Post
    Pretty sure Port had a few knee victims in one season
    They had Primus and Francou go down but they both came back and played footy again ...

    ... oh ********.

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Not sure if I remember correctly, but didn't some Grant bloke do his knee too?

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    Re: Your one wildcard for 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    I think young Higgins is going to be sensational this year. I really loved the way he played the few games last year and he is a ball magnet. Watch him shine this year.

    I think the same also, I was very impressed with him last season he just dives into everything he has that 'no fear attitude' just like Crossy.

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