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    Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    With a bit of spare time at work, I’ve put together a small spreadsheet that tracks the TAC Cup stats of our potential father/son pick ups: Mitch Wallis and Tom Liberatore.

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    Even though it’s only a reasonably small sample (4 games) - looking at those stats, it tells you a fair bit about what sort of players they are.

    Mitch uses the ball by foot the majority of time (and uses it well), and gets half of his possessions through handball receives, suggesting that he’s an outside player that his teammates look for to dispose the ball well. Against the Rebel, he set up primarily on the wing, but also had stints in the middle and at half forward.

    Tom prefers to handball 50% of the time, and from seeing him play a couple of times, I’d suggest a large amount of his handballs are contested as he is a genuine inside-midfielder in the Sam Mitchell-mold.

    He doesn’t use the ball as well as Mitch, particularly by foot, but had fantastic game against the Rebels finishing with 29 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles (I’m sure this made his dad smile )

    It’ll be interesting to see how they go for the rest of the year – there is a 3 week break from APS footy where they’ll play for the Cannons so I’ll try and update the stats.

    If we do take both, we’ll be getting two very different midfielders – an attacking wingman with a good goal sense, and an inside extractor.
    Last edited by comrade; 25-06-2009 at 09:02 PM.
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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazb View Post
    I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.
    As much as Eagleton is maligned (less so this year), every side requires outside players to run the lines and dispose the ball well.

    The issue with Eagle is that he has the tendency to only run one way, and for large parts of last year, his kicking was below par.

    Wallis can kick with both sides (a big plus), and heís good in the air (probably another area that Eagle isnít overly strong in).

    Hopefully he continues to work on the defensive side of his game, as well as improving his fitness/work rate to ensure he gets to as many contests and runs to the best positions as possible, for 4 quarters. That would get me excited.
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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Thanks Comrade, looks increasingly like both will be f/s selections.

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    Kicking efficiency is very important

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by dazb View Post
    I hope if Wallis does become the attacking wingman with good goal sense he doesn't become a scapegoat like Nathan Eagleton.
    The eagle isn't a scapegoat supporters have detected that his kicking penetration had detiorated as with his pace. Happy to say he's played well of late. Agreed every side needs outside run and carry types i'd like to hop Nathan plays well in the big games i.e finals that's all

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Thanks for that, very promising statistics. Is Wallis quick?

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coon Dog View Post
    I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?
    I originally thought he was a left footer on seeing him earlier in the year, but he kicked primarily with his right on the weekend.

    So to answer your question TCD - I've got no idea.
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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post

    So to answer your question TCD - I've got no idea.
    That's great. Ideal situation. No complaints like with Eagle of not using his opposite foot.

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by The Coon Dog View Post
    I've read quite a few reports from people who say Mitch Wallis is a left footer. I spoke with a bloke tonight involved with Calder Cannons & he's emphatic Mitch is infact a right footer. Anyone know for sure?
    Sounds a little like Leon Cameron, as a younger watcher when he was at his peak i had no idea (and still have no idea) which was Leon's natural side. God i wish just an ounce of the talent to kick both feet. Or have any skill more generally

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Iíve updated our F/S season stats after the game against Gippsland Power Ė please see below.

    <a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=tacstats2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/tacstats2.jpg" border="0" alt="Tac cup 2"></a>

    Interesting to note that the two players have a mirror image ratio when it comes to kicking vs handballing.

    Some direct stats from the weekend:

    Mitch Wallis amassed 35 possessions Ė Iíve read in places that his biggest knock is the fact that he doesnít get enough of the ball, so itís an impressive game. He also had a whopping 20 handball receives, which suggests he worked hard to run past contests to provide an option.

    Tom Liberatore amassed 27 touches, backing up his 29 possession game last week. Probably even more impressive was that he was credited with 10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.
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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.
    Now that sounds familiar,

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    Iíve updated our F/S season stats after the game against Gippsland Power Ė please see below.

    <a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=tacstats2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/tacstats2.jpg" border="0" alt="Tac cup 2"></a>

    Interesting to note that the two players have a mirror image ratio when it comes to kicking vs handballing.

    Some direct stats from the weekend:

    Mitch Wallis amassed 35 possessions Ė Iíve read in places that his biggest knock is the fact that he doesnít get enough of the ball, so itís an impressive game. He also had a whopping 20 handball receives, which suggests he worked hard to run past contests to provide an option.

    Tom Liberatore amassed 27 touches, backing up his 29 possession game last week. Probably even more impressive was that he was credited with 10 tackles, suggesting that his defensive game is a real strength.
    Thanks very much Comrade! They both sound super impressive, it's a dream situation to be in really isn't it? Having two midfielders who compliment each other so incredibly and who have played their junior career together. And they're producing these numbers still a year and a half away from draft time!

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    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Thanks for this comrade, very promising.

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