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    serial offenders. Never held to account, picked time and time again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
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    after yet another epic failure by our repeat offending team leaders & senior players namely johnson, Giansiracusa, Hahn, Eagleton I thought this might worth bringing back up from last year. there was a similar one the year before as i recall.

    I can't stand how our match committee keeps relying on the same players who have consistently proven they are not up to it in the pressure cooker of finals football.
    Whilst I can't disagree, what options do we have to address this for next season?
    Morris is the standout guy from my perspective but Giansiracusa is obviously the captain in waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
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    after yet another epic failure by our repeat offending team leaders & senior players namely johnson, Giansiracusa, Hahn, Eagleton I thought this might worth bringing back up from last year. there was a similar one the year before as i recall.
    Agree with your list but it is missing Boyd. He played on the BOG tonight. We cannot continue with Boyd showing such scant regard to his direct opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Whilst I can't disagree, what options do we have to address this for next season?
    Morris is the standout guy from my perspective but Giansiracusa is obviously the captain in waiting.
    why does Rocket and the MC always fall back to the veterans?

    A few weeks ago when we were going well there was no Eagleton, no Hahn and not much Johnson. We looked quicker and better skilled. I knew they would call these old blokes up the moment Cooney and Morris went down.

    Why not have some balls and give Everitt and Moles a go? At least try and mix it up rather than going with serial big game offenders all the time FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    Agree with your list but it is missing Boyd. He played on the BOG tonight. We cannot continue with Boyd showing such scant regard to his direct opponent.
    Agree Sedat, I was targetting the repeat offenders. Boyd and Cross were exposed badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Whilst I can't disagree, what options do we have to address this for next season?
    Morris is the standout guy from my perspective but Giansiracusa is obviously the captain in waiting.
    The thought of this is just too scary to contemplate and is just the type of thing this football department could well endorse.

    I agree that on the face of it Dale would appear a sound option although not being part of the inner sanctum I'm not in a good position to know Dale's ability to get this list to play accountable football and go out with a never say die attitude as he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    why does Rocket and the MC always fall back to the veterans?
    It's gone from perplexing to embarrassing. I'll still go back to the list management at the end of last year that kept at least two guys on the list that they shouldn't have.
    The standard was set then and Rocket has stuck to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    A few weeks ago when we were going well there was no Eagleton, no Hahn and not much Johnson. We looked quicker and better skilled. I knew they would call these old blokes up the moment Cooney and Morris went down.

    Why not have some balls and give Everitt and Moles a go? At least try and mix it up rather than going with serial big game offenders all the time FFS.
    It's a real shame that they regard Everitt as basically a spare parts player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc26 View Post
    The thought of this is just too scary to contemplate and is just the type of thing this football department could well endorse.

    I agree that on the face of it Dale would appear a sound option although not being part of the inner sanctum I'm not in a good position to know Dale's ability to get this list to play accountable football and go out with a never say die attitude as he does.
    As far as I'm aware, apparently Dale is very vocal in the defensive line meetings and comes across as the General back there. You would think he has everyone's utmost respect, also.

    We need a 'do-as-I-do' captain and Dale fits the bill. This might sounds harsh, but I reckon the club would be looked upon as a joke if we chose Gia to lead us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedat View Post
    Agree with your list but it is missing Boyd. He played on the BOG tonight. We cannot continue with Boyd showing such scant regard to his direct opponent.
    He makes me sick this bloke. Never accountable and always named in the best bescause he gets high stats. I would shop him round and see what we can get. We have Ward, Reid and Libba coming through to play this role and Boyd is not going to take us to that next step.

    I would trade Gia for a washing machine atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    As far as I'm aware, apparently Dale is very vocal in the defensive line meetings and comes across as the General back there. You would think he has everyone's utmost respect, also.

    We need a 'do-as-I-do' captain and Dale fits the bill. This might sounds harsh, but I reckon the club would be looked upon as a joke if we chose Gia to lead us.
    Morris is a very good speaker as well. I can't fault him and believe he would grow into the job.

    Regarding Giansiracusa, the coach seems sold on him so what would be the chance of a change in direction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Morris is a very good speaker as well. I can't fault him and believe he would grow into the job.

    Regarding Giansiracusa, the coach seems sold on him so what would be the chance of a change in direction?
    Maybe (for all sorts of reasons) we need a change of coach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
    I can't stand how our match committee keeps relying on the same players who have consistently proven they are not up to it in the pressure cooker of finals football.
    This is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVGjr View Post
    Morris is a very good speaker as well. I can't fault him and believe he would grow into the job.

    Regarding Giansiracusa, the coach seems sold on him so what would be the chance of a change in direction?
    I can see a lot of Tom Harley in Morris, with the advantage that Morris is a better player.
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    Obviously we only see what they do on the field for the most part. It seems because Boyd/Cross/Gia are hard trainers then they're leaders. Sure, that's part of it, but you have to be able to actually play when it counts. Walk the walk. Boyd never covers his man, and is a turnover king. Gia dead set can't keep his feet in a single contest. I don't care if they train all day ever day at 200%, on game day they aren't a leader's a$$hole.

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    Is Fantasia also part of the list making decisions?

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