Collingwood

[LostDoggy]

Does that include the 2 'home' games we sold?

Collingwood are the biggest drawing team in the competition so to maximise revenue, which the AFL see as being more important than equity they play Collingwood against the other 'big 4' teams twice each season to increase attendances & revenue.

Agreed.

Not to mention i'm sure every Melbourne based team who plays home games at the MCG when putting in requests for there draw to the AFL would request to play a home game Vs Collingwood and the MCG.

[LostDoggy]

Does that include the 2 'home' games we sold?

Collingwood are the biggest drawing team in the competition so to maximise revenue, which the AFL see as being more important than equity they play Collingwood against the other 'big 4' teams twice each season to increase attendances & revenue.

Not disputing that. Different argument. To say they had a hard draw is wrong and just because it's a little harder than last 5 years still doesn't put them on equal setting with most other clubs.
Also we sell games cos we don't get collingwood's dream run.

[KT31]

Not disputing that. Different argument. To say they had a hard draw is wrong and just because it's a little harder than last 5 years still doesn't put them on equal setting with most other clubs.
Also we sell games cos we don't get collingwood's dream run.

We sell games because we don't get Collingwood's numbers and we were stitched up with the old Etihad deal.

[bornadog]

Collingwood are the biggest drawing team in the competition so to maximise revenue, which the AFL see as being more important than equity they play Collingwood against the other 'big 4' teams twice each season to increase attendances & revenue.

The result of the AFL being shorted sighted is that Collingwood are growing bigger and bigger and clubs like us, North cannot compete with their riches and membership numbers. The AFL may be maximising revenue but killing smaller clubs in thye long term Maybe thats what they want.

[Topdog]

Well maybe you should do some research or improve your math. 4 is only one more than Essendons 3 the lowest and consider we had to travel 6 times, Geelong 5, Saints 6, and Carlton 5.
17 games at the MCG including the last 7 straight just before 3 finals there is not a hard draw.
Stop listening to the Malthouse or Collingwood spin.

Games against teams that finished 2010 in the 8
Bulldogs: 10
Collingwood: 12


Collingwoods draw was harder than ours.

Our draw was so peachy this year and we struggled for 4th, an awful year.

[LostDoggy]

Games against teams that finished 2010 in the 8
Bulldogs: 10
Collingwood: 12


Collingwoods draw was harder than ours.

So 1 aspect out of 10 is better than us so that mean they have a harder draw?
Go back and do some more research.

[Mantis]

So 1 aspect out of 10 is better than us so that mean they have a harder draw?
Go back and do some more research.

What are the other 9?

[Topdog]

What are the other 9?

I'm very interested in hearing these other aspects aswell.

[mighty_west]

At the end of the day, does it really matter who has a better home & away draw?

Once the top 4 sides were sort out, all Vic teams, it was pretty much an even playing field from that point on.

[LostDoggy]

What are the other 9?

Only I get this in depth questioning

Things like Interstate games, number of blockbusters, breaks between games, games at the G, televised games, etc. All contruibute to whether or not your draw is good.
Its definetely not just how many top 8 sides you play.

[LostDoggy]

I'm very interested in hearing these other aspects aswell.

Thank you for your interest.
Done your research yet?

[LostDoggy]

At the end of the day, does it really matter who has a better home & away draw?

Once the top 4 sides were sort out, all Vic teams, it was pretty much an even playing field from that point on.

No doubt Collingwood was the best side all year. GVjr made a lot of valid points on why, just think the draw is one of many that should be considered as well.
No doubt all top 4 sides would have loved 7 games straight at the G prior finals. Surprised no one thinks the lack of interstate or movement in this period contributed to there low injury rate.

[Sockeye Salmon]

The AFL didn't know who would be in the finals before the season started - not even the AFL is that corrupt yet.

I'm way to lazy and apathetic to check, but could someone who cared check how many of last years finalists they played?

[Mantis]

Things like Interstate games, number of blockbusters, breaks between games, games at the G, televised games, etc. All contruibute to whether or not your draw is good.
Its definetely not just how many top 8 sides you play.

That isn't 9, but anyway.

The only one's of any importance from what you listed are interstate travel, breaks between games & where you play.

We have already gone through interstate games.

In respect to breaks between games the only thing taken into consideration with that is the number of 6 day breaks you have:

Collingwood - 6, W.B - 5

I will say that we had many more 7 day breaks than Collingwood (about 4 more) while Coll had about the same amount more in 8 day breaks.

Where you play is another factor as it's been reported that players struggle to get up after repeated games at ES, but since that venue is our home ground we will struggle to get many people supporting our cause.... If we drew an average of over 50K to our games we could move to the 'G, but as we don't we are stuck playing at ES and have to deal with the consequences of playing there.

[Mantis]

I'm way to lazy and apathetic to check, but could someone who cared check how many of last years finalists they played?

11.

As did we.