Mike's Top 50

[Mantis]

21-50 released today (1-20 released tomorrow):

21 - Nick Dal Santo
22 - Brady Rawlings
23 - Matthew Pavlich
24 - Harry O'Brien
25 - Brett Deledio
26 - Brent Harvey
27 - Darren Jolly
28 - Jonathon Brown
29 - James Frawley
30 - Kieren Jack
31 - Mark LeCras
32 - Sam Fisher
33 - Matthew Scarlett
34 - Adam Goodes
35 - Harry Taylor
36 - Matthew Boyd
37 - Richard Douglas
38 - Sam Mitchell
39 - Ryan Griffen
40 - Steve Johnson
41 - Barry Hall
42 - Sam Gilbert
43 - Andrew Swallow
44 - Mark Jamar
45 - Heath Grundy
46 - Kade Simpson
47 - Luke Ball
48 - Chris Newman
49 - Cyril Rioli
50 - Shane Mumford

[comrade]

Kieren Jack and Richard Douglas rated higher than Griff?

How high was Mike when he wrote this?

[bornadog]

Kieren Jack and Richard Douglas rated higher than Griff?

How high was Mike when he wrote this?

What a joke, Griff is at least in the top 20.

[Mofra]

B&F and best finals prefromer (in the absense of Cooney) for a top 4 side is behind Ritchie Douglas & Kieran Jack?
The rumours of coke binges being the norm in print media must be true.

[Jasper]

Capt Gronna's Top 20

1 Swan
2 Ablett
3 Hayes
4 Goddard
5 Selwood
6 Riewoldt, N
7 Judd
8 Pendlebury
9 Hodge
10 Sandilands
11 Franklin
12 Lake
13 Didak
14 Riewoldt, J
15 Chapman
16 Enright
17 Cooney
18 Mundy
19 Montagna
20 Bartel

[Mantis]

^^^

Swap N.Riewoldt (who missed over 1/2 the season) for Watson who will slot in at the lower portion of the 20.

[Jasper]

^^^

Swap N.Riewoldt (who missed over 1/2 the season) for Watson who will slot in at the lower portion of the 20.

My bad, forgot Jobe.
Was assuming Mike's love for Saint Nick would carry him into Top Ten despite injury.
Drop in Jobe at 20, push everyone else up.

[LostDoggy]

Mike's love-affair with Selwood continues if he's a top 20 player. How he can REMOTELY be rated higher than Pavlich, J.Brown, etc. is ridiculous. The guy is a good midfielder, and a tough bugger, but he's in the same bracket as someone like Dal Santo or a fit Daniel Kerr ie. a top-class 2nd/3rd midfielder playing alongside a modern day great.. not to mention the fact that Joel is a great front-runner in a gun team.

Mark my words, we'll see the real Selwood next season now that Geelong's opponents don't have three guys trying to stop Gablett (not to mention Bartel, Chapman and Enright) with a team in decline, just as we saw the real Daniel Kerr once Juddy left WC, or, from a different sport, the real Scottie Pippen once MJ left the Bulls. Still good players, but geez, nowhere near as dominant as they looked in previous seasons.

And Pavlich not being in the top 10, much less the top 20, based on the year just past is nonsensical. Brady Rawlings ahead of Pav? Mike, you've got to get off that stuff.

[mjp]

In fairness to Sheahan, Jack did win the B&F for the Swans. I am surprised he rated him more highly than Griffen given Griff's continued outstanding form in big games (has a great finals record) but can live with it.

I am more surprised that Barry Hall came in so low. He kicked 70-odd goals this year which would make him one of the more valuable players in the competition...I would have expected to see him well up towards the top 20-25 on the list if it is indeed based on performances this season/looking ahead to next.

Adam Cooney and Brian Lake are our stand-out players. I would expect Lake to lob in the top 10 as the games best defender and Cooney to slot in somewhere between 10-20...you might think this is low but he has struggled with injury for a couple of years now and I think he is behind Swan, Ablett and Judd as the most explosive mids in the game.

Another consideration for the top 50 must have been Ben Hudson - I am disappointed to see he has missed out.

[LostDoggy]

In fairness to Sheahan, Jack did win the B&F for the Swans. I am surprised he rated him more highly than Griffen given Griff's continued outstanding form in big games (has a great finals record) but can live with it.

I am more surprised that Barry Hall came in so low. He kicked 70-odd goals this year which would make him one of the more valuable players in the competition...I would have expected to see him well up towards the top 20-25 on the list if it is indeed based on performances this season/looking ahead to next.

Adam Cooney and Brian Lake are our stand-out players. I would expect Lake to lob in the top 10 as the games best defender and Cooney to slot in somewhere between 10-20...you might think this is low but he has struggled with injury for a couple of years now and I think he is behind Swan, Ablett and Judd as the most explosive mids in the game.

Another consideration for the top 50 must have been Ben Hudson - I am disappointed to see he has missed out.

All great points mjp, although Griff won the Dogs B&F, and the Dogs finished higher than the Swans, so.. well, you know.

Barry's contribution is definitely underrated on the list, and the Beard has suffered from noreputationitis for a while now -- he doesn't play in a sexy position and his contributions aren't flashy, so I don't think he'll ever be truly appreciated outside the kennel unless he got himself a hot-ass girlfriend, started riding a Harley, and showed up every second week on the Footy Show riding the Harley into the studio with the hot-ass girlfriend riding pillion.

[comrade]

he got himself a hot-ass girlfriend, started riding a Harley, and showed up every second week on the Footy Show riding the Harley into the studio with the hot-ass girlfriend riding pillion.

Can someone photoshop this onto a t-shirt?

[Mofra]

Another consideration for the top 50 must have been Ben Hudson - I am disappointed to see he has missed out.

I can understand Jamar being rated higher, which means there weren't too many spaces left for the big fella. I'd like to say I rate him higher than Mummy but I've grown a beard in the last month so am far too biased.

[Mantis]

Deledio's high rating gives me the shits.... esepcially compared to Griffen.

The bloke can't handle a tag in the midfield so they send him down to HB to rack up numbers... How hard is that?

Griffen is so under-rated by flogs like Sheahan it isn't funny.

[Greystache]

Deledio's high rating gives me the shits.... esepcially compared to Griffen.

The bloke can't handle a tag in the midfield so they send him down to HB to rack up numbers... How hard is that?

Griffen is so under-rated by flogs like Sheahan it isn't funny.

And no doubt he'll have Luke Hodge in the top 10, probably top 5.

[LostDoggy]

Deledio's high rating gives me the shits.... esepcially compared to Griffen.

The bloke can't handle a tag in the midfield so they send him down to HB to rack up numbers... How hard is that?

Griffen is so under-rated by flogs like Sheahan it isn't funny.

I totally missed this, but based on this year, Deledio being rated higher than Bazza, Boydy and Griff is just ridiculous.