The Saints in trouble - very broad topic

[Remi Moses]

Ya gotta love their fan website ''Saintsational''
They wanted mark Robinson tarred and feathered after all the photo/schoolgirl drama.
Now they're blowing wind up his backside after his fluff piece in the daily tabloid!!

[LostDoggy]

I didn't see the game on the weekend however I have heard that a piece on onfield action was potentialy revealing in relation to the as yet unseen StKilda Video.

Apparentely there was a passage of play where Nick was handed the ball on a platter resulting in a goal. The typically post goal hugging and bum slapping (undertaken by all players) did not occur and whilst the players both initially ran towards each other to celebrate, they both diverged at the last moment.

Did anyone watch the game and or notice this piece of play? and if so who was the other player?

[Mofra]

Did anyone watch the game and or notice this piece of play? and if so who was the other player?

I'd like to know too - would love to see their season derailed by player friction.

[LostDoggy]

I must say that I am still struggling to subscribe to the rumors that Nick is at the centre of the latest StKilda rumor, considering that back in 2006, he offended the gay community during a live-to-air word association game on a local radio station, he responded to the word "homosexual" with "die", but subsequently apologised for the episode.

[Topdog]

I must say that I am still struggling to subscribe to the rumors that Nick is at the centre of the latest StKilda rumor, considering that back in 2006, he offended the gay community during a live-to-air word association game on a local radio station, he responded to the word "homosexual" with "die", but subsequently apologised for the episode.

I'm certainly not saying he is gay or has participated in gay acts however that kind of extreme reaction is typical with people who are trying to cover up for something.

[Twodogs]

I'm certainly not saying he is gay or has participated in gay acts however that kind of extreme reaction is typical with people who are trying to cover up for something.

Agree wholeheartedly. It's pretty well accepted that most gay bashers are repressing their sexuality.

[KT31]

Agree wholeheartedly. It's pretty well accepted that most gay bashers are repressing their sexuality.

While I don't agree with gay bashing.
Homophobic is a better word.
This is a very general comment .
Does this mean most racist are supressing their multi cultral heritage, liberals are supressing their labour feelings, out spoken athiests are really believers that can't bring themselves to admit it ?
One thig is certain they are all scared of change and having their way of life and lifestyle challenged.

[EasternWest]

While I don't agree with gay bashing.
Homophobic is a better word.
This is a very general comment .
Does this mean most racist are supressing their multi cultral heritage, liberals are supressing their labour feelings, out spoken athiests are really believers that can't bring themselves to admit it ?
One thig is certain they are all scared of change and having their way of life and lifestyle challenged.

I'm an atheist. I'm not scared of change or having my way of life and lifestyle challenged. I just don't believe in fairytales (ducks for cover). I actually find that generalization a bit insulting.

[Murphy'sLore]

I think the point Twodogs and Topdog were making is that people who react with such extreme apparent loathing and/or violence (eg gay-bashing) are quite likely projecting a deep unease with an aspect of their own identity that they are unable to face.

Someone who feels comfortable with their own sexuality (or religious beliefs or whatever) usually doesn't feel any need to torment or belittle others. Homophobia, like misogyny, xenophobia, and every other senseless prejudice, is born of fear.

[ledge]

A bit like saying our hatred of Carlton is truely because we love them,hiding our real love for them.
Spin doctoring at its best?

[Ghost Dog]

A bit like saying our hatred of Carlton is truely because we love them,hiding our real love for them.
Spin doctoring at its best?

Haha - Well spun. Yes, time for all you Carlton fans to come out of the closet.

[Maddog37]

For me the teams I hate are usually the ones that are succesful. If they drop down the ladder and we are constantly beating them I tend to feel less animosity towards them. Except for North. They annoy the living bejesus out of me for some reason.

fear of gays or foreigners etc is generally just lack of understanding though isn't it? On the other side of the coin why do we tend to love to beat our nearest neighbours so much. eg freo/weagles etc

[aker39]

Except for North. They annoy the living bejesus out of me for some reason.

I think we have all grown tired of their hard done by attitude.

[Mofra]

A bit like saying our hatred of Carlton is truely because we love them,hiding our real love for them.
Spin doctoring at its best?

Homophibia, by definition, is a fear of homosexuality - not a hatred of it.

Murphy's Lore summed it up well methinks.

[lemmon]

A bit like saying our hatred of Carlton is truely because we love them,hiding our real love for them.
Spin doctoring at its best?

Maybe not love, but envy perhaps?