The Sub Rule - spread the word.

[Topdog]

The problem with that is when you are bringing on your ruckman as the sub the other team are injecting more pace into their team and freshening the legs of their midfield group.

[Hotdog60]

The problem with that is when you are bringing on your ruckman as the sub the other team are injecting more pace into their team and freshening the legs of their midfield group.

True they can inject more pace but would we in theory have the advantage with the genuine ruck giving our mids first use when opposed to the opposition 2nd ruck.

With the cap wouldn't most player be buggered by the time the their sub comes in and if he can't get the ball his influence could be minimal. It was just an idea on trying to fix our resting ruck role which with the cattle doesn't appear to be working that well.

Maybe we would benefit better if they went back to the 4 interchange with a cap on rotations and scrap the sub.

[Topdog]

But they would still have their first ruck as well. They would rotate the first and 2nd rucks resting up forward so it would still be our second ruck vs Cox, Jolly, Sandi, etc. at times plus they have the extra fit midfielder.

[lemmon]

Was it the Swans who tried this really early on when the rule was introduced and it was pretty ineffectual? Seem to remember Horse Longmire calling it a coaching blunder

[Hotdog60]

Ok I'll shelve my coaches hat for awhile.

[bornadog]

the AFL has changed the rule again, with some common sense, but can it be exploited?

AFL announces concussion rule change

The AFL has announced a rule change allowing the use of a team's substitute player as a temporary interchange while a player is being assessed for concussion.
The rule change allowing the sub to be a temporary interchange for up to 20 minutes came as the AFL also revealed updated guidelines for the management of concussion in the sport.
AFL medical commissioner Dr Peter Harcourt said key features of the updated guidelines included:

- Any player with a medically diagnosed concussion will not be allowed to return to play on the day of injury

- Sideline video review by team doctors of the relevant on-field incident as a part of the clinical assessment will be used at all major AFL venues

- The extensive SCAT3 assessment to determine whether a player is fit to return to play cannot take place for a minimum of 10 minutes after the on-field incident

- A player with any neurological symptoms or signs, video features of concussion and/or any evidence of a disturbance of mental state or cognitive function following trauma, can be considered to have concussion and must not return to play

- Where there is any suspicion of concussion, the player requires further evaluation including video footage review and assessment of symptoms, orientation, balance and cognitive function (SCAT3) prior to a final determination

- If a player is cleared of a concussion following assessment, they can be allowed to return to play, but should be monitored for the duration of the game as concussion symptoms are dynamic and can evolve over time

- Club medical officers may be required to provide full documentation of clinical assessments of concussion to the AFL medical directors for review.

Full documentation will also be collected as part of ongoing research activities.

[chef]

It will be exploited most weeks IMO.

[bornadog]

It will be exploited most weeks IMO.

Simple solution - get rid of the sub

[Greystache]

Simple solution - get rid of the sub

And have to sit through every losing coach's press conference blaming the loss on being 1 rotation down due to an injury- No thanks.

[LostDoggy]

I can see a player struggling for form on a particular day suddenly being assessed for concussion.

[soupman]

I can see a player struggling for form on a particular day suddenly being assessed for concussion.

How would this rule affect that? Wouldn't you just sub them off like they have been these last two years. Unless you mean the out of form player is taken off, assesed for concussion against their will and then sent back on 20 minutes later having been told to do better.

The only benefit of using this rule dishonestly is to have the player you have chosen to sub off pretend to be concussed, therefore they are replaced. Then you go about the concussion assessment, buying you 20 minutes post sub where if you get an injury the injured player can still be replaced by the player originally subbed off who of course will be found "unconcussed".

[bornadog]

How would this rule affect that? Wouldn't you just sub them off like they have been these last two years. Unless you mean the out of form player is taken off, assesed for concussion against their will and then sent back on 20 minutes later having been told to do better.

The only benefit of using this rule dishonestly is to have the player you have chosen to sub off pretend to be concussed, therefore they are replaced. Then you go about the concussion assessment, buying you 20 minutes post sub where if you get an injury the injured player can still be replaced by the player originally subbed off who of course will be found "unconcussed".

A nice 20 minute rest and then back on.