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    Concussion rule

    I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?
    Who determines what player is & isn't suffering concussion?

    As you say Chops, a few grey areas. Might be a few 'inner ear infections' & the like this season.
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    Re: Concussion rule

    No-one can suggest it in an formal format without being threatened with defamation but every doctor in the league will do precisely what the coach says.

    'He's just winded' will be getting a run fairly often, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coon Dog View Post
    Who determines what player is & isn't suffering concussion?

    As you say Chops, a few grey areas. Might be a few 'inner ear infections' & the like this season.
    They could easily ask for proof through the concussion test (assuming they still do a concussion test?). Have the doctors show their test, proving that the player is not concussed, before they're let back on the ground.
    Obviously this is still open to corruption of sorts, because players can just reduce their baseline score meaning it's easier to 'prove' they're not concussed.

    I think it's a good idea, clubs were too liberal with letting concussed players back onto the ground.
    Poor form to announce it two days before the start of the season though.

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    Isn't the test if a player was stretchered off?
    If it is, we'll see alot more trainers carrying/helping players off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?
    Very good point Chops.

    It's a noble idea by the AFL but I can't see it working well. As TCD said lots of inner ear infections.

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    Great idea in theory. However, as the saying goes, "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not." (attributed rather amusingly to either Yogi Berra or Albert Einstein!)
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    Seeing the injuries from Round 1, I seriously want the AFL to bring in two Subs , one the normal Sub- one off one on, the other the Medical Sub for a concussed or injured player- one off one on . If the AFL want to keep things level with no subterfuge or deliberate high tackles the Medical Sub is the easiest way to do it. Also with the finals, I would want the Club doctors of the Club's who did,nt qualify for the finals to be made available as neutral Doctors to ascertain the injury before the Medical Sub, this would eliminate a Club trying to inject fresh legs before the end of a game by exploiting the Medical Sub

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    Re: Concussion rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Salmon View Post
    No-one can suggest it in an formal format without being threatened with defamation but every doctor in the league will do precisely what the coach says.

    'He's just winded' will be getting a run fairly often, I guess.
    As usual, SS is right on the money.


    Apparently Mitch Clark was just winded.

    If you missed it he got collected and was walking like a new-born foal. His opponent was actually holding him up and waved for the trainers.

    He wasn't subbed out and came back on later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West-Dog View Post
    Seeing the injuries from Round 1, I seriously want the AFL to bring in two Subs , one the normal Sub- one off one on, the other the Medical Sub for a concussed or injured player- one off one on . If the AFL want to keep things level with no subterfuge or deliberate high tackles the Medical Sub is the easiest way to do it. Also with the finals, I would want the Club doctors of the Club's who did,nt qualify for the finals to be made available as neutral Doctors to ascertain the injury before the Medical Sub, this would eliminate a Club trying to inject fresh legs before the end of a game by exploiting the Medical Sub

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    Sounds logical - which means it won't happen.
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    Re: Concussion rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Salmon View Post
    As usual, SS is right on the money.


    Apparently Mitch Clark was just winded.

    If you missed it he got collected and was walking like a new-born foal. His opponent was actually holding him up and waved for the trainers.

    He wasn't subbed out and came back on later.
    I don't agree at all, while they may be working for a footy club, they are still reportable to the medical practitioners board. They can be dis-barred for in proper practice, they won't risk their livelihoods for a job they do for the enjoyment. This will be sorted out within a couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    I don't agree at all, while they may be working for a footy club, they are still reportable to the medical practitioners board. They can be dis-barred for in proper practice, they won't risk their livelihoods for a job they do for the enjoyment. This will be sorted out within a couple of weeks.
    He should have been done for malpractice on Saturday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Salmon View Post
    He should have been done for malpractice on Saturday night.

    If you think the coaches aren't making the decisions for them you're delirious.
    I can tell you I'm not, a family friend was a club doctor in the AFL for years. He lost count the number of times he told the coach "get ****ed, he's not right to go back on"

    Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
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    Re: Concussion rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post
    I can tell you I'm not, a family friend was a club doctor in the AFL for years. He lost count the number of times he told the coach "get ****ed, he's not right to go back on"

    Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
    Yeah, and the Brisbane doctor said the scratches to the Brisbane player from Jose Romero's fingernails were 'bleeding profusely'.

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    Re: Concussion rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Greystache View Post

    Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
    Tue and Mitch was most likely fine.

    However was a concussion test done? The answer is no as he came back on in 3 minutes and the test has 30 questions and several physical tests too.

    AFL cleared Brisbane.

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