So is it the skill or the will of the players?
The skill or the will why we cant win clearances?
The skill or the will why we cant execute our skills under pressure?
Skill or will why we are running as hard as some of the better teams we have come up against?
I think its the will...
With Boyd, Griffin, Cooney, Ward, Libba, Cross etc we have a plethora of inside players who when they want to be can be clearance kings, plus guys like Sherman, Addison, Wallis + Hudson who all arent slouches at extracting the hard ball, wining clearances and contests...
Aker and Johnno didnt do much last season, and our All-Australian bookends have been MIA for the majority of the season, but if we arent getting our paws on the ball first then we dont have a chance.
Something is wrong above the shoulders at the moment for the majority of our players
This.
There was an article online in The Age I think that compared the two coaches and how it was ludicrous that Rodney was the one under the pump and Worsfold was safe when the former had made the last 3 prelims and the latter had just won the wooden spoon.
Just shows how much sometimes supporters are victims of conventional wisdom rather than objective decision makers.
Agree with most of this. I also think our 'clearance kings', as you call them, sometimes forget their limitations and play like millionaires, disregarding their direct opponents and trying dinky stuff that looks brilliant when it comes off but generally just leads to a turnover. Boydy is a much improved player but he's not Lenny Hayes or Gary Ablett and cannot be running around by himself, no matter what his Supercoach scores say.
If the players you've mentioned literally just focus on winning the ball, contesting stoppages, killing the game when necessary etc. we would have one of the most fearsome inside midfields around. Instead sometimes we resemble a marshmallow with a soft centre with opposition players just waltzing in and out of our stoppages at will. No way that should be happening to a team with the body strength and tackling ability of the mids you've mentioned.
So do you think the appropriate team rules and structure are in place, and our midfield group doesnt follow them?
Or do you think our coaching staff havent set a clear direction and structure for players to follow...
Do we hear Rocket constantly saying that certain players arent following instructions?
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In 2002 we finished 2 points clear of Freo in 12th position. They had pick 3(which they traded to Brissie) and we had pick 4. We would have picked Brennan(according to Clayton) if he was available instead we ended up with Walsh. One pick can(but not always) make a hell of a difference.
The curse is dead.
It's a confusion.
Coaches have more to do than set patterns, even half the posters on this board could do that.
When coaches say that players aren't following instructions you have to wonder about how effective the coaching has been, and ask has the coaching been clear, does the supposed direction and structure stand up in the heat of battle, do the players have faith in it, or are our players just wilful, ie they know better but prefer to lose?
When the rhetoric is deconstructed the latter doesn't make much sense does it?
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Question for the WOOFers.
What is the biggest loss (margin wise) ever by a Premiership team within that season?
Anyone?
So by your own admission it's a risky road to go down but you are still prepared to deliberately have the team drop games to move up the draft ladder for what would no doubt be a mid range draft pick. You still haven't convinced me that jeopardizing memberships and sponsorship by dropping games is the right way to go.
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Demise is a bit over the top isn't it?
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Never said the club would fold, a meteor would hit Whitten Oval etc. IIRC I did say we didn't have the team, structures etc to win the flag in 2011, 2010, 2009 and 2008.
As you say, I got it right this year, so let's look at the rest. As you suggested, I checked my posts:
Season 2010
Posted 4/4/10
- Correct call. Hall's 80 goals and late season injuries can't hide the fact we couldn't beat teams above us.
Season 2009
Posted 12/8/09 in an exchange with Ozza
- Correct call
Posted 7/9/09
- Correct call
As an aside, here's a prescient post from Mantis late 2009 - posted 8/9/09
- Correct call
Season 2008
Posted 9/1/08 - early concerns about needing a changed game plan
- Correct call
20/9/08
- Correct call
Posted 19/9/08
Re: Another Prelim Loss
- Correct call for a few years as it turned out.
I'd say I've been right all along. I've enjoyed each season, but I had a fair idea how it would end better than many here.
Sometime realism isn't very popular.
The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.