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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    HOw do you define great? Is great the ability to perform consistently at a high level over a long period of time? Or is great the ability to do the freakishly amazing things consistently?

    Junior is a great player. But I wouldn't pay to go to the footy just to watch him play. I would though pay just to see Gary Ablett Snr play. His ability to do the amazing - things his peers couldn't do - consistently makes him a true great of the game. He didn't need to play 350 games to be a great.

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Snr played in a different time, and was a different footballer. Again, an unhelpful but natural comparison between eras.

    Jnr is a great of the game, and played a lot of his best footy off Broadway.
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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Top 5 but his Dad is still the best. I'm biased though I saw a lot of Snr live living opposite KP in the early 90s.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

    I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

    I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!
    I'd have Ablett sr first but Templeton ahead of any of the others. I don't rate Ablett jr as highly as almost anyone else does. He's good but he's not in my top 10.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Individually Ablett snr was a more brilliant player but Ablett jnr was a better team player. Ablett jnr played in a Premiership and won 2 Brownlow Medals which his Father was unable to achieve.

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    I have Templeton 1978-1980 seasons as the best I've ever seen.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

    I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!
    I didn't see Matthews play aside from when I was about five or six and he tore our hearts out in a preliminary final, but being too young to think too much about anything other than little league and my next meat pie I don't remember much of it!

    My list is pretty much the same as yours given that.
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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    I'd have Ablett sr first but Templeton ahead of any of the others. I don't rate Ablett jr as highly as almost anyone else does. He's good but he's not in my top 10.
    I'm so surprised to read that.
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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I didn't see Matthews play aside from when I was about five or six and he tore our hearts out in a preliminary final, but being too young to think too much about anything other than little league and my next meat pie I don't remember much of it!

    My list is pretty much the same as yours given that.
    Leigh Matthews must have been phenomenal if he is regarded as (arguably) the best ever. Retired when I was 2 years old.

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I'm so surprised to read that.
    More surprised by that or there is a contract thread? Or that TD knows a thing or two about teaching how to kick at goal?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    I'm so surprised to read that.
    24 shots at goal in one game. Kicked 6 on debut as a 17 yo. 118 goals in a team that wins 7 games and finishes 2nd last. 91 goals off the back of no preseason at all in 1979, 2 Colemans, a Brownlow. His career effectively over at the age of 23.

    How can a player have a better career than that when he's robbed of the best 7 years then that? Wayne who? Oh Carey? Saw them both play, KT was twice the player. Without the injury and if he'd played the same amount of years that Ablett did he would have kicked 2000 goals and won 5 Brownlows.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    24 shots at goal in one game. 118 goals in a team that wins 7 games and finishes 2nd last. 91 goals off the back of no preseason at all in 1979, 2 Colemans, a Brownlow. His career effectively over at the age of 23.

    How can a player have a better career than that when he's robbed of the best 7 years then that? Wayne who? Oh Carey? Saw them both play, KT was twice the player. Without the injury and if he'd played the same amount of years that Ablett did he would have kicked 2000 goals and won 5 Brownlows.
    He was unbelievable
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    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    More surprised by that or there is a contract thread? Or that TD knows a thing or two about teaching how to kick at goal?
    I'm unsure. Just flat out flabbergasted. So flabbergasted that the gut Jake Stringer's running around with after four weeks of footy seems normal to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    He was unbelievable
    Sure was.
    Have you been reading those Roddy Doyle books again, Dougal!?


    I have, yeah Ted, you big gobshite

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