Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Eastern Suburbs
    Posts
    3,089
    Post Thanks / Like

    Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Although Collins is not at the helm anymore I didn't want this article to escape comment as it just smacks of hypocrisy from a Club that continues to thwart the system by pushing the limits of fair play with dubious 3rd party payments. This from a mob that cheated to achieve something we've been fighting honourably and with minimal resources to achieve for 60+ years.

    For me, this is one man who totally pushes what's reasonable with adhering to the passage 'Love Thy Neighbour'.


    From Wednesday's HUN:

    Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    FORMER Carlton president Ian Collins says the salary cap penalties handed to the Blues set the club back a decade.
    Etihad Stadium boss Collins said the penalties for cheating were manifestly excessive and on the "whim of the (AFL) commission".

    He said the AFL had applied double standards to salary cap breaches, implying the Blues were hit with the big stick and others clubs flogged with a wet lettuce.

    "At the time I said it would cost 10 years, and it's basically nearly 10 years. When you look at it, it did what the (AFL) set out to do," he told SuperFooty's Front & Square.

    Asked if the penalties were too harsh, he replied: "Yes, and I think they would agree with that."

    The Blues were fined $930,000 and lost a slew of draft picks for payments to Fraser Brown and Stephen O'Reilly and agreements to pay Craig Bradley and Stephen Silvagni.

    "It was not of our doing but we had to manage something that was rather difficult," Collins said.

    "No money, no players ... coaches sacked who hadn't been paid. And of course the AFL's bloody-mindedness about the severity of the fine, and the draft choices being taken. We had to go through a period of trying to reduce player payments because we couldn't afford them and also try to keep players playing when probably their use-by-date had gone. Not being able to regenerate the list was terribly difficult."

    Brisbane was recently fined $21,630 for administrative errors with its salary cap, and Collins says there have often been different rules for different clubs.

    "There's always breaches. Some will be treated as minor, some will be treated as very serious," he said.

    "It depends on the whim of the commission at the time.

    "I think there is no doubt there was a different mindset when they attacked Carlton.

    "The (AFL) want a levelling of the playing field, but it's never been level.

    "Brisbane and Sydney always had advantages under the salary cap in my time. That's been going on forever and a day.

    "They are now doing it with Greater Western Sydney and the Gold Coast, they still have advantages. The draft is not pure. We've got the new team coming in. Those teams struggling at the bottom of the ladder are not going to be able to pick up good players right now."

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    7,664
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    He's a shocking bloke, isn't he?
    85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    ...... I actually hate him.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Etihad Stadium boss Collins said the penalties for cheating were manifestly excessive and on the "whim of the (AFL) commission".

    Others have suffered at your whim Ian. It's called karma.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Perth, WA
    Posts
    3,510
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    I have an idea ... How about you hand back the 1995 Premiership and then we'll talk about appropriate punishments !!
    WOOF Member 422

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Scraggers View Post
    I have an idea ... How about you hand back the 1995 Premiership and then we'll talk about appropriate punishments !!
    This.

    Complete lack of perspective outside of his private school entitlement mentality. Classic Carlton, of course.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Good thing Judd is the ambassador for Visty (a carlton sponsor) now a days so he can collect a decent paycheck. Off the Carlton books of course.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    If you really are looking for some fun reading, there was an article a couple of days ago where Collins said Grant should have got 3 weeks. Great stuff.
    Compare carlton's penalties to the Storm and they really look quite nice

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    You know what? Judd getting $200k a year extra is almost worth it for the look on the face of a Carlton scumbag when you shout “Cheater!” in his face.

    Cheats and cowards always know they're cheats and cowards.

    EDIT TO SAVE MULTIPLE POSTS:

    Just saw this on the Hun website:
    Should Chris Judd's Visy deal be included in Carlton's salary cap?
    Yes
    78.81%
    (4719 votes)
    No
    21.19%
    (1269 votes)
    Good analytics for the Herald Sun, they now know that 21.19% of their readers are Carlton fans.
    Total votes: 5988

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    14,848
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    They just don't get it!
    Systematically cheated then he says it's to harsh.
    Bit like someone getting a suspended sentence then going out and committing the same crime! Go away you corrupt fossil

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Stuck in the middle with you
    Posts
    8,201
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    I read this the other day and nearly swore in Gloria Jean's! Death by flogging would've been too harsh....but only just.
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    992
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Quote Originally Posted by shifty View Post
    If you really are looking for some fun reading, there was an article a couple of days ago where Collins said Grant should have got 3 weeks. Great stuff.
    Compare carlton's penalties to the Storm and they really look quite nice
    The only man I despise more than John Elliott

    Link to the article shifty is referring to

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Quote Originally Posted by BornAScragger View Post
    Etihad Stadium boss Collins said the penalties for cheating were manifestly excessive and on the "whim of the (AFL) commission".

    Others have suffered at your whim Ian. It's called karma.
    Oh yeah, I do love that Karma Bus.....

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    8,900
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    It'll come Collins, and i hope it comes hard and drawn out.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Kyabram
    Posts
    13,904
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ian Collins says Carlton's salary cap penalties were too hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    ...... I actually hate him.
    I think we all do.
    The curse is dead.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •