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    A random idea that popped into my footy obsessed head. In your footy fan lifespan, who has been each club's most influential figure?

    Some things I have considered
    * Onfield success
    * Lenth of service/multiple roles
    * Contribution to fiannces/marketing/promotion/club's overal success
    * 'Heart/romance

    My life as a footy fan probably started around 1986-1987

    Here goes
    Adelaide- Mark Ricciuto: IMO their greatest player ever. Played in a premiership, won a brownlow and their longest serving captain. If Bickley has any success as coach he will quickly takeover though.

    Brisbane- Michael Voss: Queensland boy, a great player and captained 3 flags. Now he is their coach (perhaps that's not such a positive for them).

    Carlton- Stephen Kernahan: Captained them to a few flags and is now their president. Only Juddy can go close to knocking him off.

    Collingwood- Eddie McGuire: Easy to forget these guys weren't in a great possie financially when he took over. Under his reign they have become the most powerful club both on and off the field.

    Essendon- Kevin Sheedy: Coached to 4 flags but I think his greatest legacy is how well he promoted the club. ANZAC day, turning games against Eagles at home into big games, making something out of nothing with dream time at the G and indigenous players in general. Hirdy stiff to miss out, a flag as coach will get him the title.

    Fremantle- Matthew Pavlich: Via default. Their greatest ever player, has captained them for awhile and most of all, didn't leave them.

    Geelong- Gary Ablett Jnr: I know it's a bit odd considering he has left but he was their gun in over a time with 3 grand final appearances and 2 premierships. The Ablett named obviously adds to it. He gets the gig over his old man due to the elusive flags.

    Gold Coast- Gary Ablett Jnr: Default

    GWS- Kevin Sheedy: Izzy Folau not far off.

    Hawthorn- Jason Dunstall: Goals, premierships and consistently involved at the club post-career.

    Kangaroos- Wayne Carey: I know he could have ended his career there in finer fashion but he was arguably the greatest player of all time during their great era.

    Melbourne- Jim Stynes: Unlike Lyon, he doesn't need to be asked twice. A great player and has been at the very least, an inspiring symbol as Prez, helping them bulldoze their debt.

    Port Power- Warren Tredrea: I acutally forgot Port, there ya go.

    Richmond- Matthew Richardson: Via default

    St.Kilda- Robert Harvey: Two brownlows, games record, captaincy and now an assistant coach.

    Sydney- Paul Roos: Just gets it over Kirk because of his multiple roles at club. Gave them great service as a player, playing in a GF, then become a popular assistant before of course coaching them to a flag and two grand finals. Along with Kirk he bought back the Bloods image. Sorry Paul Kelly, no flag knocks you out.

    West Coast Eagles- John Worsfold: Two premierships as a captain and two grand final appearances and a premiership as a coach. Now he has taken them back to within touching distance of the top 4, not bad.

    Western Bulldogs- Chris Grant: The 20c, the humble/noble thing, the greatness as a player, take your pick, we all love him.
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    Re: Each club's most influential figure over your time

    Ian Dicker from hawks. Maybe . Campbell Rose would be worth a mention too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog37 View Post
    Ian Dicker from hawks. Maybe . Campbell Rose would be worth a mention too.
    Rose loses on for two reasons IMO

    1/ My 'heart' category. Unlike Eddie and co., it was mainly a job to him
    2/ Massive cuts to footy department. While it was good business, he could have cost us a flag

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    I agree with Grant but Johnno would also have to go close. Local boy, most games, captained our most successful era, AA captain. etc
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I agree with Grant but Johnno would also have to go close. Local boy, most games, captained our most successful era, AA captain. etc
    1- Grant
    2- Johnno
    3- Smorgo

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    Quote Originally Posted by comrade View Post
    I agree with Grant but Johnno would also have to go close. Local boy, most games, captained our most successful era, AA captain. etc
    Agree, I don't know if I could split the two.
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    Before my time, but Peter Gordon? There's no club without him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewP6 View Post
    Agree, I don't know if I could split the two.
    Grant gets the nod for me because of what he did at the end of 96. We all know about the offer but what is even bigger is the position the club was in. We were on our knees and the Smorgo rebuild would have had the worst of all starts if Grant left. I remember we had a heap of uncontrated players who re-signed after Grant stayed on. It was the same season that Fitzroy died/'merged' and what started the rot there was it's key players leaving. What would have happened to us if Grant walked out?

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    Yep Grant for me also, it was an incredibly selfless act to stay when that sort of money was being offered to leave.

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    Grant. Hero.

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    I'm a bit older (well alot older) than Rocco, so I go back to the early 70's & have done a 3,2 & 1 for each of the 16 clubs (not the newbies). Mainly off the top of my head so romance, the first thought & their contribution.

    Freo probably the hardest for lack of quality & Hawthorn too just to limit it to three. Probably a bit contraversial with Plough, but he played, coached the reserves & seniors, won multiple B & F's & is a Life Member.


    Adelaide - Malcolm Blight, Mark Riccuito, Mark Bickley
    Brisbane - Michael Voss, Leigh Matthews, Jonathan Brown
    Carlton - Stephen Kernahan, Ron Barrassi, Bruce Doull
    Collingwood - Bob Rose, Nathan Buckley, Tony Shaw
    Essendon - Kevin Sheedy, James Hird, Simon Madden
    Fremantle - Matthew Pavlich, Mark Harvey, Aaron Sandilands
    Geelong - Mark Thompson, Frank Costa, Malcolm Blight
    Hawthorn - John Kennedy Snr, Alan Jeans, Leigh Matthews
    Melbourne - Jim Stynes, Robert Flower, Gary Lyon
    North Melbourne - Wayne Carey, Dennis Pagan, Ron Barrassi
    Port Adelaide - Mark Williams, Warren Treadrea, Gavin Wanganeen
    Richmond - Tom Hafey, Kevin Bartlett, Royce Hart
    St.Kilda - Trevor Barker, Robert Harvey, Nathan Bourke
    Sydney - Paul Kelly, Tony Lockett, Paul Roos
    West Coast - John Worsfold, Michael Malthouse, Glenn Jakovich
    Western Bulldogs - Chris Grant, Brad Johnson, Terry Wallace
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    Re: Each club's most influential figure over your time

    Quote Originally Posted by The Coon Dog View Post
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    15 of those 16 are pretty good.

    The one obvious brainfade is Wallace.

    there is no possible measure that puts Wallace ahead of plenty of others. Hell, right now I'd put Luke Dahlhaus' mum ahead of him just for not having a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye Salmon View Post
    15 of those 16 are pretty good.

    The one obvious brainfade is Wallace.

    there is no possible measure that puts Wallace ahead of plenty of others. Hell, right now I'd put Luke Dahlhaus' mum ahead of him just for not having a headache.
    I think of Richmond when I think of Wallace.

    Doug Hawkins would be my number 3 after CG and Johnno.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    Rose loses on for two reasons IMO

    1/ My 'heart' category. Unlike Eddie and co., it was mainly a job to him
    2/ Massive cuts to footy department. While it was good business, he could have cost us a flag
    Also saved the club from financial ruin. Persuaded Canberra to give us funding to rebuild Whitten Oval.
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    Re: Each club's most influential figure over your time

    Quote Originally Posted by The Coon Dog View Post
    I'm a bit older (well alot older) than Rocco, so I go back to the early 70's & have done a 3,2 & 1 for each of the 16 clubs (not the newbies). Mainly off the top of my head so romance, the first thought & their contribution.
    I am a lot older so I say:

    Adelaide - Who cares?
    Brisbane - See Adelaide
    Carlton - John Nicholls
    Collingwood - Bob Rose
    Essendon - Kevin Sheedy
    Fremantle - See Brisbane
    Geelong - Reg Hickey
    Hawthorn - John Kennedy Snr,
    Melbourne - Norm Smith
    North Melbourne - Wayne Carey
    Port Adelaide - See Fremantle
    Richmond - Graeme Richmond
    St.Kilda - Darell Baldock
    Sydney - Paul Roos
    West Coast - See Port Adelaide
    Western Bulldogs - EJ - by a mile

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