Ward, Boyd, Cross and Giansiracusa still unsigned

[Maddog37]

Yes we should lower our expectations and just be grateful if they become good average players..........


No way!! They were junior elite and will be elite at the AFL level. I am adopting the Collingwood mentality in that every kid on our list is a gun. Stick your realism up your jumper.

[Ghost Dog]

Took the words right out of my mouth (or head as it were). Talk about going early. Wallis is so far from established that it's not funny, and Libba while being really good for a first year player is still only a kid and anything can happen (anyone else remember Everitt's first year).

I can't remember really. Did he play any good footy for us at all?

[The Underdog]

Such as?

Can you meaningfully measure kicking efficiency or decision making to make it worth something that'd be applicable in a contract?

[Mofra]

We got 4 good years out of Hudson because the Coneheads, acting on their principles, refused to give him a three year deal.

I still think the Crows' treatment of their older players would have been a factor in Bock leaving as well.

[boydogs]

Can you meaningfully measure kicking efficiency or decision making to make it worth something that'd be applicable in a contract?

I don't think so, hence my question

- games played
- best and fairest votes
- any meaningful stats

Games + B&F votes however are probably fair enough

[KT31]

A whisper I have heard is Boyd offered three, Cross and Gia both two years.
Pen nearly to paper on all.