The impact of Selwood, Hawkins, Duncan, Tuohy, Blicavs for experience and leadership, then adding in Smith and Dangerfield, can't be understated. A young guy coming in, with them as their on field leaders, is set up for success.

I might be undersellig Brad Close, but I see him and Laith as similar players - but Close is set up to succeed with a clear role, and the guys around him playing their role clearly as well.

Also re: recruiting there is no way that we can match that. Their two biggest recruits in Danger and Jezza made choices entirely on geography. They have had another two first round draft picks nominate them this year, in Bruhn and Ollie Henry.

Hopefully the loss of their on-field leaders impacts them more than the loss of talent, when those old guys retire.