The Saints in trouble - very broad topic

[Ghost Dog]

Couple of very good posts Lantern. The club blaming the young girl is just a bad look and
a really undignified way to handle the situation. .

Yes, well put Lantern. Particularly in the light of B. Fev's antics. It just gets out of hand and people don't know when to stop. Any club that gives excuses for crap behaviour will reap what they sow. One can think of quite a few examples.

It is interesting that you compare Spanish sporting culture to Australian- I'm in China at the moment teaching VCE and note the really strict discipline here which makes people quite upstanding and respectful. There are negative sides too, but on the whole, it feels much safer here than Australia which is wierd, considering this is a communist country.
Are we too soft on this kind of stuff? I think so. Yob culture in Australia is nasty. I love teaching here. Kids are great in school. Never teaching in Australian High schools again!

[Ghost Dog]

If the players who did have relations with this girl originally met her at a school footy clinic (as her school Principal reported to the Police) then they have indeed broken the law.

Um. They meet someone at a clinic. Then some time later, they meet them at a bar and they are no longer in school. How is that illegal?
Anyhow, it is a bad look and I don't see how coaches and clubs can really afford to go soft on this stuff, illegal or not.

[Scraggers]

Um. They meet someone at a clinic. Then some time later, they meet them at a bar and they are no longer in school. How is that illegal?
Anyhow, it is a bad look and I don't see how coaches and clubs can really afford to go soft on this stuff, illegal or not.

The report made by the Principal stated that they exchanged phone numbers at the school clinic which is how the next meeting at the bar took place. If this is the case (and I'm not saying it is ... This is just what I have read), then the players were in a position of power and have a duty-of-care to the school aged girl ... Making it (very) illegal !!

[aker39]

Nude-photos teen gatecrashes Saints' training
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/nu...110-19kji.html


A teenage girl who released nude photos of two star St Kilda footballers has turned up to the club’s first training session of the year today with posters declaring ‘‘scandal in progress’’ and banners urging the AFL to show her some respect.

The 17-year-old, under police escort, said she was also planning to distribute two more lewd photographs of players but backed down after receiving a hostile response from the crowd, which had gathered to watch the Saints train at Seaford.

‘‘There’s people yelling things out to me right now,’’ she told The Age.

‘‘One guy came up to me and was, like, abusing me for about 10 minutes in front of the media and saying I’m not welcome here and things like that.

‘‘I’m honestly really concerned about my safety of being here. If I wasn’t standing here with the cameras and stuff I think I would have been knocked out already.’’

The Melbourne teen, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has been at the centre of a legal battle since she posted explicit photographs of Saints captain Nick Riewoldt and another of midfielder Nick Dal Santo on her Facebook page in December.

The photographs went viral on the internet and sparked a furious reaction from St Kilda, which claims the photographs were taken on an end-of-year trip to Miami more than 12 months ago.

Last month, Justice Shane Marshall said he had formed the view that the photos had been taken by fellow St Kilda player Sam Gilbert. The girl agreed through her lawyer the images would be deleted from her computer and destroyed.

The teenager said she arrived at the training ground about 1am today and put up a number of large banners around the ground.

One said: ‘‘RESPECT. AFL can you please spell that for me?’’; while another read ‘‘HU$H’’.

‘‘There was a few security guards there that were waiting for me,’’ the teenager said.

‘‘They were like ‘Hi, you won’t be able to post them, this is private property’. I had to post them on the side, but then when I showed up in the morning one of my friends told me that she had seen the St Kilda officials pull them down.’’

The teenager arrived under police escort at the training ground this morning.

It was unclear whether any of the players, including Riewoldt and Dal Santo who were at the two-hour session, had seen the banners.

She also distributed a number of handmade posters lambasting the St Kilda club, but pulled back when the crowd realised what she was doing.

The posters carried slogans such as ‘‘scandal in progress’’ and ‘‘beware of St Scandal’’

Today’s publicity stunt was a manoeuvre to keep her story in the public eye, she said.

She also revealed she was writing, with her manager, the last two chapters of a book.

‘‘I just wanted to hand out the signs and banner today so I can keep telling my story,’’ she said.

‘‘You know how it is in the news, everything dies down after a few days but if I keep it going and keep releasing my blogs and when my book comes out it will still be relevant.’’

After the training session, St Kilda CEO Michael Nettlefold said he was concerned for the young woman, but equally concerned for the club’s players.

‘‘It’s a complex and difficult situation, we think at this point in time that we need to let a little bit of the emotion sort of move away from the situation and we’re about focusing on 2011,’’ he said.

‘‘We’d like to find in due course a sensible solution to the situation.

‘‘We have concerns for the girl, clearly, we have concerns for our players as well.’’

Unable to enter the club’s headquarters or speak to Mr Nettlefold, the teenager littered the side of the oval with her posters in front of reporters while Saints security guards collected them as they blew over the road.

[Ghost Dog]

The report made by the Principal stated that they exchanged phone numbers at the school clinic which is how the next meeting at the bar took place. If this is the case (and I'm not saying it is ... This is just what I have read), then the players were in a position of power and have a duty-of-care to the school aged girl ... Making it (very) illegal !!

Ok fair enough, didn't know this
So lets reframe it. A teacher runs a workshop at a school. He gets a girls phone number. They meet at a bar later and have group sex with other teachers. Then, girl gets pregnant. And so on.
Well in the real world, the teacher is going to have his VIT rego revoked.
Cover up.

But then, on the other hand, read ( the age ) - lied about her age - claimed to be 19 and from AIS.
Who knows.

Edit: I spoke to a few Saints fans and they claim have known her before all this. If anyone believes what they say ( Biased! )
she was known around the club as a hanger on before all this.

[divvydan]

Whilst the Principal may have said they exchanged numbers at the clinic, the girl, the players, the afl and the police who investigated all disagree with this claim. Knowing how most school clinics work, it's hard to imagine any student getting enough time alone with player(s) to be able to exchange phone numbers. The only students who usually get to even speak to the players away from the main group are the school captain and perhaps football captain if the school has a team.

It must be said that the girl, the players and the afl would all have had a reason for wanting to deny it, however, the police certainly believed them and even now when she's angry at the players and could've claimed phone numbers were exchanged at the clinic to get the players in trouble, she hasn't done so which suggests that she wasn't lying about that.

[Mofra]

Ok fair enough, didn't know this
So lets reframe it. A teacher runs a workshop at a school. He gets a girls phone number. They meet at a bar later and have group sex with other teachers. Then, girl gets pregnant. And so on.
Well in the real world, the teacher is going to have his VIT rego revoked.
Cover up.

But then, on the other hand, read ( the age ) - lied about her age - claimed to be 19 and from AIS.
Who knows.

How stupid does Sam Gilbert have to be to think she is a 19 year old kid in year 11 at High School?

[The Coon Dog]

How stupid does Sam Gilbert have to be to think she is a 19 year old kid in year 11 at High School?

If she grew up in Frankston, there's a fair chance.

[Ghost Dog]

Prolly need a new thread for this. Baker and Lenny are starting to feel left out.
Anyone suggest a new thread title? Saints V the Devil? ^_^

[aker39]

Derryn's latest tirade

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/blog-wit...110-19kls.html

[aker39]

Riewoldt involved in scuffle over nude photo

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...120-19xev.html

[The Coon Dog]

Riewoldt involved in scuffle over nude photo

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...120-19xev.html

Be interesting to see how he handles sledging onfield this season!

Would I let him know about it if I was an opponent? Oh yeah, big time!!

I'd like to be the bloke at Channel 7 who is responsible for the umpire's mics.

[Mofra]

Riewoldt involved in scuffle over nude photo

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...120-19xev.html

They were carrying the photo at the time

Riewoldt wont get a minute's rest when he's in public.

[LostDoggy]

Maybe if he crys, the umpire will give a free kick in front of goal !

[Ghost Dog]

Price of fame.
There is a really nasty lout streak around these days. Sportsmen getting king hit or targeted ( Pendulbury, Jason Gillespie, Mick Lewis, others ) or singled out in the street. It's ok on the field and maybe some louts like to think they are. Imagine being a player and wanting to go out for a quiet drink?
I hate yobbos.