Macrae muscles in

[BornInDroopSt'54]

So in all this was it the chin that made Ben hudsons beard so awesome ?
Is it really the chin that's the hero ?

Yes this, the shape of the cranium, the squareness of the jaw and the heaviness of the eyebrow ridge, e.g. Chesty Bonds, Novak Djokovic and Jeff Kennett. Recruiters take note.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

And makes no sense.



How can you say that? I just can't agree at all. Surely we were recruiting to build towards a premiership

This is just pure speculation on your behalf

No.

Griff explained it all perfectly above.

Surely you can admit that you need to have a strategy as to the type of player you need in order to build towards a premiership. You don't just "do it" -- although that's basically what we did

[boydogs]

So far the coach had shown no ability on game day. Lets hope he does this year with better assistants to help out.

I was referring to his focus on contested ball. We recruit for it, we train for it, we focus on it on game day.

[LostDoggy]

I agree with this point, but then again in the last 12 years only 7 teams have won the premiership, so the others all failed to recruit well

Yep, pretty much. I think St. Kilda stands alone here, and even then, in my opinion their success was more a case of getting the most out of what they had rather than recruiting especially well.

[bornadog]

Yep, pretty much. I think St. Kilda stands alone here, and even then, in my opinion their success was more a case of getting the most out of what they had rather than recruiting especially well.

Saints also had the luxury of having all those number one draft picks.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Saints also had the luxury of having all those number one draft picks.

If they couldn't win a flag with all those picks, Fraser Gehrig, Malcolm Blight and Aaron Hamill. they've got a long wait till the next opportunity.

[Greystache]

Saints also had the luxury of having all those number one draft picks.

2?

Hawthorn, Bulldogs, and Collingwood have all had one in the same period.

Carlton have 3 and they're rubbish, Melbourne has 2 and they're worse.

[Ghost Dog]

Carlton are not rubbish. Once the old man knocks some sense into that backwards-baseball-cap-wearing lot ( Mitch Robinson a case in point ) they will be hard to beat. They just lack discipline as a unit.

As for this kid Macrae, I keep watching his highlights reel and am really glad we picked him. 5kg in a few months is not a bad effort either.

[bornadog]

2?

Hawthorn, Bulldogs, and Collingwood have all had one in the same period.

Carlton have 3 and they're rubbish, Melbourne has 2 and they're worse.

Not sure what your point is? I was responding to bornascragger's comment on the Saints

[Greystache]

Not sure what your point is? I was responding to bornascragger's comment on the Saints

You said they had the luxury of ALL those number 1 draft picks. A whopping 2 compared to most teams 1.

[Remi Moses]

That is fine for you to say, I don't think coaches should talk like that in public.

How do you explain not having one player left from the 06 draft?
Gaping hole in the mid 20's, little bit more than some make it some Don't

[bornadog]

You said they had the luxury of ALL those number 1 draft picks. A whopping 2 compared to most teams 1.

I think you will find they picked up Luke Ball, Kossie and Reiwoldt in the past 12 years. Not a bad trio.

[bornadog]

How do you explain not having one player left from the 06 draft?
Gaping hole in the mid 20's, little bit more than some make it some Don't

I never said we have been stars in recruiting, I said Coaches should not talk about mistakes of the past by the recruiting team - in PUBLIC.

[Greystache]

I think you will find they picked up Luke Ball, Kossie and Reiwoldt in the past 12 years. Not a bad trio.

I can't follow any logic here.

Riewoldt was pick #1, Kozi was #2 and Ball was #2. We picked up Cooney #1, Griffen #3, Walsh and Ray #4. What has any of that got to do with "Saints also had the luxury of having all those number one draft picks."

Is your point they drafted better than us? Several people have posted they think our previous approach was poor, if was only you that questioned if they know for a fact that is was.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I can't follow any logic here.

Riewoldt was pick #1, Kozi was #2 and Ball was #2. We picked up Cooney #1, Griffen #3, Walsh and Ray #4. What has any of that got to do with "Saints also had the luxury of having all those number one draft picks."

Is your point they drafted better than us? Several people have posted they think our previous approach was poor, if was only you that questioned if they know for a fact that is was.

I know its not the point you're making but it could be extrapolated from your point that it's not a significant benefit to have a #1 draft pick; better than not having one but not that telling; from which it could be reasoned that the draft system is failing. The strong get stronger and the weak just get early picks but they're not enough.