The Moving-Rolling Delisting/Retiring/Trading Thread 2017

[bulldogtragic]

Time stops for no one. Next off-season firms as a crucial year. So basic forward looking:

Retiring Candidates based on age (obviously form & fitness are more important than dob): Bob, Matty Boyd, Morris (3)

Candidates needing a strong year: Prudden, Honeychurch, Hamilton (3)

Trading Candidates: Adams, based on his request/suggestion/offer to be traded this year (1)

[Twodogs]

Who's out of contract at year's end? JJ would most ur gent I guess.

[Topdog]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

[KT31]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

Bit of work but around five or six players would be on year to year deals, Crameri should stick by us and hopefully a few will be extended prior to the season commencing.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

2017 is where our recruiting team is going to earn their keep. As Topdog points out there are a lot of important guys here, and hopefully the Hurley deal falling over, means we've got good 'walking around money' to re-sign everyone we wish to keep.

[Axe Man]

That list doesn't concern me too much. JJ is the priority as other clubs will come hard for him if he remains unsigned deep into the season. Adams we will be trying to convince to stay. The players need to address the disconnect from the playing group that Adams apparently felt.

Boyd, Murphy & Morris will either retire or sign a 1 year deal.
Crameri & Picken should just be a formality to re-sign.
Would be surprised if there are any major issues re-signing Dunkley, Collins, Williams, McLean, Daniel, Clay Smith or Redpath.
Hamilton, Dale, Webb and Honeychurch need good seasons to be offered contracts.
Roberts will likely be re-signed without fuss unless Adams stays and we also look to recruit a quality key back from somewhere else.

[comrade]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.

Matthew Boyd (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Clay Smith (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Dale Morris (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Declan Hamilton (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Jack Redpath (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Robert Murphy (2017) (Re-Signed 2016)
Josh Duckley (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Kieren Collins (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Marcus Adams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Williams (2017) (Under 2 Year Draftee Deal)
Bailey Dale (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Lukas Webb (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Toby McLean (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Caleb Daniel (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Mitch Honeychurch (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Fletcher Roberts (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Liam Picken (2017) (Re-Signed 2015)
Jason Johannisen (2017) (Re-Signed 2014)
Stewart Crameri (2017) (Traded For in 2013)


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

[Axe Man]

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

Would you re-sign Webb if he has a poor season? I think he needs to step up in 2017 to be safe.

[GVGjr]

That list doesn't concern me too much. JJ is the priority as other clubs will come hard for him if he remains unsigned deep into the season. Adams we will be trying to convince to stay. The players need to address the disconnect from the playing group that Adams apparently felt.

Boyd, Murphy & Morris will either retire or sign a 1 year deal.
Crameri & Picken should just be a formality to re-sign.
Would be surprised if there are any major issues re-signing Dunkley, Collins, Williams, McLean, Daniel, Clay Smith or Redpath.
Hamilton, Dale, Webb and Honeychurch need good seasons to be offered contracts.
Roberts will likely be re-signed without fuss unless Adams stays and we also look to recruit a quality key back from somewhere else.

I'm wondering how hard it will be to get an agreement from JJ as he and Stringer are very close. If we don't mess him around I'd think he will sign on again.

[azabob]

Borrowed from BigFooty. Thanks to BRG93 for keeping it up-to-date.


Quite a lot of work to do!!! I was going to highlight those that I thought were most important but I had 10 highlighted so stopped

I think BT put together a similar list a week or so back also.

[KT31]

Must signs are bolded.

Happy to wait and see on the older players. Hoping Dale pops up and becomes a must sign.

Highlighting was a great idea, wish I had thought of it.

If Smith has no major issues he would be on my priority list ahead of Webb.
JJ defiantly top priority and one would imagine a big pay rise.

[GVGjr]

Would you re-sign Webb if he has a poor season? I think he needs to step up in 2017 to be safe.

Tend to agree although it's a harsh environment for a player who did well in his 1st year and got squeezed out of senior games in his 2nd year because the team was performing so well and he was given a new role.

[comrade]

Would you re-sign Webb if he has a poor season? I think he needs to step up in 2017 to be safe.

I'm a big fan of his foot skills and intercept marking and he added a new string to his bow this year as an inside, clearance winning mid. Clearly is very coachable.

I'd re-sign him early. Even if he has a poor season, teams will enquire about him and being contracted gives us more leverage if we do want to move him on. I hate talented players being out of contract, after getting peanuts for Hrovat and Stevens.

[azabob]

I'm wondering how hard it will be to get an agreement from JJ as he and Stringer are very close. If we don't mess him around I'd think he will sign on again.

As you mentioned above and referenced in another post if we put forward a strong offer to JJ you would think he'd have no hesitation in signing on again.

What happens if Stringer is unhappy with the club? Does this impact JJ decision making - I don't necessarily think it would.

As we all know things are changing in the football landscape, younger players are changing clubs regardless of contract status. In this case you are right JJ and Stringer are extremely close. However what we are also seeing is younger players are close with a lot of younger players regardless of what teams they play for.

Caddy and Prestia are still close mates from the Gold Coast days, Jager O'Meara is close with a number of the GWS boys, Marcus Bontempelli is close with Josh Kelly from GWS and there are bound to be numerous more examples.

Even when one player choses to leave their club and go to another club this isn't impacting friendship between players - It appears that each and every player coming through nowadays is fully aware that AFL is now a business and like any other day job.

[azabob]

Time stops for no one. Next off-season firms as a crucial year. So basic forward looking:

Retiring Candidates based on age (obviously form & fitness are more important than dob): Bob, Matty Boyd, Morris (3)

Candidates needing a strong year: Prudden, Honeychurch, Hamilton (3)

Trading Candidates: Adams, based on his request/suggestion/offer to be traded this year (1)

I think that Clay Smith and Jack Redpath also need to be added to the candidates requiring a strong year.

Clay Smith needs to get through the season and play 20 plus games and Redpath needs to not put a foot wrong in his rehab program as if Cloke and Crameri perform along with the other forwards he could find himself squeezed out.