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16-12-2017, 04:29 PM
#151
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Ascot Vale and Maribyrong are Essendon territory
Maribyrnong is more disputed than that I reckon. It's the wrong side of the River to be Essendon's but I sort of see their point given you could literally kick a footy from Maribyrnong into Essendon.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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16-12-2017, 04:56 PM
#152
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Maribyrnong is more disputed than that I reckon. It's the wrong side of the River to be Essendon's but I sort of see their point given you could literally kick a footy from Maribyrnong into Essendon.
Maybe it is in the west with the river as the border.
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16-12-2017, 04:59 PM
#153
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Ascot Vale and Maribyrong are Essendon territory
I'll grant Ascot Vale. In fact I believe Essendon's original home ground was in Ascot Vale. I was just chipping away at off stump on that one, as I reckon a bit of crossover's crept in over the years.
However Maribyrnong is absolutely our turf - not Essendon's.
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16-12-2017, 05:50 PM
#154
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Maribyrnong /Ascot Vale are ranked as our 12th biggest membership area and are 14th for Essendon. They of course have more members than us overall but I'd reckon we'd probably have more in Maribyrnong and they certainly would have far more in Ascot Vale.
Interestingly, this is also the 8th ranked area for North but I reckon like Essendon these would be significantly more located in Ascot Vale.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/int...4eade7b2dc620b
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16-12-2017, 06:21 PM
#155
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Prince Imperial
Maribyrnong /Ascot Vale are ranked as our 12th biggest membership area and are 14th for Essendon. They of course have more members than us overall but I'd reckon we'd probably have more in Maribyrnong and they certainly would have far more in Ascot Vale.
Interestingly, this is also the 8th ranked area for North but I reckon like Essendon these would be significantly more located in Ascot Vale.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/int...4eade7b2dc620b
Thanks PI, that's a great tool. I wonder if winning the premiership last year has affected us one way or the other in those areas?
I have always said that if you go to Ascot Vale, Moonee Ponds or Essendon train stations and check the cars in the car park there are always more bulldoog bumper stickers on the cars parked there than there are Essendon, or North Melbourne for that matter.
That means there are more bulldog supporters living there than we think or people are driving from St Albans and other western suburbs really early in the morning and taking all the parking spots.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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16-12-2017, 06:43 PM
#156
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Thanks PI, that's a great tool. I wonder if winning the premiership last year has affected us one way or the other in those areas?
I have always said that if you go to Ascot Vale, Moonee Ponds or Essendon train stations and check the cars in the car park there are always more bulldoog bumper stickers on the cars parked there than there are Essendon, or North Melbourne for that matter.
That means there are more bulldog supporters living there than we think or people are driving from St Albans and other western suburbs really early in the morning and taking all the parking spots.
I don't know if you've seen the Outsiders yet, but in an early scene Bob is driving to the Whitten Oval from his home in North Fitzroy for our 2015 preseason game and he sees a car with a Doggies sticker and he comments that he sees more such stickers on cars everywhere than for any other club. This was after four years of not playing finals and 60 seasons without a premiership! I think we underestimate just how proud and passionate and loyal our supporter base has been over such a long period of heartbreak and struggle.
Interestingly, Essendon/Aberfeldie is our 15th highest area so I suspect we have a decent following along that train line.
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16-12-2017, 06:57 PM
#157
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Just on the Port discussion, the Swans have it as their 10th highest membership area in Melbourne and geographically it makes sense given their South Melbourne heritage. Given the Swans only have 12k Vic members, it's probably no mans land overall though.
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16-12-2017, 09:23 PM
#158
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Prince Imperial
I don't know if you've seen the Outsiders yet, but in an early scene Bob is driving to the Whitten Oval from his home in North Fitzroy for our 2015 preseason game and he sees a car with a Doggies sticker and he comments that he sees more such stickers on cars everywhere than for any other club. This was after four years of not playing finals and 60 seasons without a premiership! I think we underestimate just how proud and passionate and loyal our supporter base has been over such a long period of heartbreak and struggle.
Interestingly, Essendon/Aberfeldie is our 15th highest area so I suspect we have a decent following along that train line.
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Originally Posted by
Prince Imperial
Just on the Port discussion, the Swans have it as their 10th highest membership area in Melbourne and geographically it makes sense given their South Melbourne heritage. Given the Swans only have 12k Vic members, it's probably no mans land overall though.
One of my friends grew up in Port Melbourne (in a pub in Port in the '70s-could you imagine the pleasant Sunday mornings?. Shes got a huge stockpile of stories about the Painters and Dockers, Billy Longly, putty nose Nicholls and all those blokes) anyway she's a huge Swanny supporter.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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16-12-2017, 10:59 PM
#159
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
I live in Flemington. My thoughts...
Flemington, Kensington, West Melbourne (North Melbourne station is even there)= North Melbourne
Ascot Vale, Moonee Ponds= Essendon
Port Melbourne= Going to give this one to the Dees but really as neutral as it gets.
West Melbourne has Footscray Road. When I see the Port of Melbourne I feel that is part of our heartland.
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17-12-2017, 04:16 AM
#160
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
The Port of Melbourne and Port Melbourne are different places Easty.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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17-12-2017, 02:39 PM
#161
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
The Port of Melbourne and Port Melbourne are different places Easty.
Yep the Port of Melbourne is part of West Melbourne not to be confused with Port Melbourne which is south of the Port of Melbourne.
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17-12-2017, 03:28 PM
#162
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
Yep the Port of Melbourne is part of West Melbourne not to be confused with Port Melbourne which is south of the Port of Melbourne.
My brain is starting to hurt!
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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17-12-2017, 08:58 PM
#163
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
My brain is starting to hurt!
Yeah that does give the mind a workout. Anyway back to Port Melbourne the suburb being part of the western suburbs I believe the Port Melbourne Colts did play in the Western Region Football League along with a few teams from the Flemington/Kensington area.
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17-12-2017, 09:12 PM
#164
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Webby
I'll grant Ascot Vale. In fact I believe Essendon's original home ground was in Ascot Vale. I was just chipping away at off stump on that one, as I reckon a bit of crossover's crept in over the years.
However Maribyrnong is absolutely our turf - not Essendon's.
Maribyrnong clearly is ours. Footscray Town Hall is HQ for Maribyrnong Council!
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17-12-2017, 09:39 PM
#165
Re: Getting to the Whitten Oval on matchdays in the VFL days and Early AFL days
Originally Posted by
Eastdog
Yeah that does give the mind a workout. Anyway back to Port Melbourne the suburb being part of the western suburbs I believe the Port Melbourne Colts did play in the Western Region Football League along with a few teams from the Flemington/Kensington area.
I played footy for flem/ken at the old Holland park and it was all north supporters back then.
Through my experiences , braybrook all the way to Melton are very bulldog owned and I think out Werribee way we are getting a lot of Sudanese etc coming on board.
Tarniet, hoppers seem to be growing as a bulldog heartland too.
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