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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Just look at the fiasco re the pre-season camp. Some players jacked up, went to the AFLPA and coach - camp cancelled, club $30K out of pocket!
    What an attitude! What a back down! They weren't being asked to inject unknown substances - it was a survival camp designed to develop mental toughness and they didn't even make it to the start line.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by merantau View Post
    Just look at the fiasco re the pre-season camp. Some players jacked up, went to the AFLPA and coach - camp cancelled, club $30K out of pocket!
    What an attitude! What a back down! They weren't being asked to inject unknown substances - it was a survival camp designed to develop mental toughness and they didn't even make it to the start line.
    Yeah that's only part of the story. Whilst the players didn't air their concerns at the appropriate time or via appropriate channels, this same camp that they went on the year prior saw two players injured performing tasks not associated with football. Essentially the club believes itself to be allowed to put footballers through tasks that are high risk if they feel it be of benefit to the club, but if a player injures himself in a rest, relaxation or recreational activity all hell breaks loose, irrespective of the benefits of those activities.

    AFL footballers aren't the same as they used to be, they're not the same as rugby players either (it was rugby players Melbourne Storm put through camps that gave MFC the idea to do the same with footballers). Clubs need to be really careful in how they manage them.

    All of this points to a club that isn't in tune with how to develop and get the best out of its players. That's their main issue, all the good draft picks in the world won't do much if you can't development their fruits.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Yeah that's only part of the story. Whilst the players didn't air their concerns at the appropriate time or via appropriate channels, this same camp that they went on the year prior saw two players injured performing tasks not associated with football. Essentially the club believes itself to be allowed to put footballers through tasks that are high risk if they feel it be of benefit to the club, but if a player injures himself in a rest, relaxation or recreational activity all hell breaks loose, irrespective of the benefits of those activities.

    AFL footballers aren't the same as they used to be, they're not the same as rugby players either (it was rugby players Melbourne Storm put through camps that gave MFC the idea to do the same with footballers). Clubs need to be really careful in how they manage them.

    All of this points to a club that isn't in tune with how to develop and get the best out of its players. That's their main issue, all the good draft picks in the world won't do much if you can't development their fruits.
    Yep.

    Just why are the AFL so obsessed with making Melbourne a power club anyway? They paid for Roos, they put Jackson in place on their coin, they were manipulating mini drafts for them and of the nine clubs in Victoria Jake Lever picks Melbourne over all of them? Really a bloke who plays AFL thinks Melbourne are a chance to have some success in his playing career? Righto then I can believe that, I flat out refuse to believe the AFL had a hand in his decision.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    That's their main issue, all the good draft picks in the world won't do much if you can't development their fruits.
    Consider the 7 Premiership defenders from 2016, as we'd rotate 7 through six spots.

    Wood: pick 43
    Hamling: DFA
    Roberts: PSD
    Morris: Rookie
    Boyd: Rookie
    JJ: Rookie
    Biggs: Rookie then traded for nothing.


    If there was ever evidence that draft picks are overrated, this is it. The two highest draft picks on our list are playing VFL right now.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofra View Post
    Consider the 7 Premiership defenders from 2016, as we'd rotate 7 through six spots.

    Wood: pick 43
    Hamling: DFA
    Roberts: PSD
    Morris: Rookie
    Boyd: Rookie
    JJ: Rookie
    Biggs: Rookie then traded for nothing.


    If there was ever evidence that draft picks are overrated, this is it. The two highest draft picks on our list are playing VFL right now.

    There's a heartening masterclass in "culture" - and some canny recruiting calls - if there ever was one.

    CC that to the entitled chaps over at Demonland.
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Science View Post
    There's a heartening masterclass in "culture" - and some canny recruiting calls - if there ever was one.

    CC that to the entitled chaps over at Demonland.

    We could but they would just giggle to themselves because they know better than us. That explains all their recent success compared to us. We might get a faux tough guy text in response...


    Speaking of that, WTF does Bugg think he is, and what exactly has he acheived in AFL football that allowed him to carry on like that? I remember thinking when he got himself suspended a couple of weeks later "if I was MFC I'd be sending Bugg around to JJ's house to ask if he could polish his Norm Smith and premiership medallions for him"
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    Re: Why are the Demons still so piss weak in 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twodogs View Post
    We could but they would just giggle to themselves because they know better than us. That explains all their recent success compared to us. We might get a faux tough guy text in response...


    Speaking of that, WTF does Bugg think he is, and what exactly has he acheived in AFL football that allowed him to carry on like that? I remember thinking when he got himself suspended a couple of weeks later "if I was MFC I'd be sending Bugg around to JJ's house to ask if he could polish his Norm Smith and premiership medallions for him"
    Good lord that's too delicious to pass up.

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