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07-08-2018, 08:52 PM
#361
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
comrade
Fair result. It was a body punch gone horribly wrong but if you take a swing, you deal with the consequences.
I agree with what you are saying wholeheartedly, (and with what others have said on other WOOF forums) but why do we now punish the consequence and not the action. A couple of years ago the charter was two weeks for this and one week for that, downgraded by 25% because of your impeccable record etc. Now its more ... you fractured his jaw and displaced four teeth you can have this magical number that will appease both media and general public. I think this current AFL tribunal is too open to interpretation and coercion ... death by media.
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07-08-2018, 10:29 PM
#362
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
I agree with what you are saying wholeheartedly, (and with what others have said on other WOOF forums) but why do we now punish the consequence and not the action. A couple of years ago the charter was two weeks for this and one week for that, downgraded by 25% because of your impeccable record etc. Now its more ... you fractured his jaw and displaced four teeth you can have this magical number that will appease both media and general public. I think this current AFL tribunal is too open to interpretation and coercion ... death by media.
Yeah, it’s a curly one for sure. If he’d clipped Callan Ward’s cement jaw for example, we’re probably talking a few weeks and much less outrage.
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07-08-2018, 11:04 PM
#363
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Sedat
He is 100% responsible for enabling these wildly distored views and giving them unwarranted oxygen and airtime. As for Kingy, he is a daily presence on SEN and an employee of the network - completely different from the Bruns interview.
Whateley knows EXACTLY what he's doing with such idiotic hot takes. Incite nuffies and create incessant controversy. The solemn voice is hiding nothing - he is a total sham and a bonafide shock jock now.
It’s your view that Bruns’ view is an idiotic hot take. Serious question, did you listen to the entire 19 minute interview, or did you just pick up the quotes reported online? As I said before, I don’t agree with Bruns’ assertion on the penalty - but his comment on the penalty was about 15 seconds out of the nearly 20 minute long interview - and the rest was the audience getting a unique perspective from someone who was significantly impacted by this sort of incident. The majority of the focus for the last few days has been on Gaff and what penalty he should get and whether he’s a good or bad person etc. Bruns and Staker being interviewed gives an insight into what Brayshaw may be experiencing now, and how it might effect him in the future.
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07-08-2018, 11:16 PM
#364
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
comrade
Yeah, it’s a curly one for sure. If he’d clipped Callan Ward’s cement jaw for example, we’re probably talking a few weeks and much less outrage.
What was it that Campbell Brown got for that sucker punch from behind on Ward when he was still with us? That was one of the dirtiest punches the game has seen.
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08-08-2018, 12:10 AM
#365
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Ozza
It’s your view that Bruns’ view is an idiotic hot take. Serious question, did you listen to the entire 19 minute interview, or did you just pick up the quotes reported online? As I said before, I don’t agree with Bruns’ assertion on the penalty - but his comment on the penalty was about 15 seconds out of the nearly 20 minute long interview - and the rest was the audience getting a unique perspective from someone who was significantly impacted by this sort of incident. The majority of the focus for the last few days has been on Gaff and what penalty he should get and whether he’s a good or bad person etc. Bruns and Staker being interviewed gives an insight into what Brayshaw may be experiencing now, and how it might effect him in the future.
Thankfully I only picked up the quotes online as I'm on holiday. Very glad to have missed the relentless 24/7 non-stop sensationalist coverage of this incident.
So Father Whateley stood up on his sermon and told his congregation that Gaff should have gotten a minimim 12 weeks for an action entirely comparable to a 5 week incidents in the very recent past, and then he brings on a guest who wants Whateley's already absurd 12 weeks to become 12 months. It is so ridiculous.
I hear he got 8 weeks, which is slightly harsh but in the ballpark of reasonable. Thankfully some sanity has prevailed where it matters.
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08-08-2018, 12:39 AM
#366
Re: MRP Thread 2018
I'm sorry but I've seen all angles again on AFL 360 just now and that isn't a punch to the chest. It just isn't.
It's a swinging arm straight to the jaw, the footage from behind Brayshaw shows well and truly that it's aimed at nothing other than where it landed. He's looking exactly where his punch landed.
I hadn't seen this particular angle until now.
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08-08-2018, 12:40 AM
#367
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Thankfully I only picked up the quotes online as I'm on holiday. Very glad to have missed the relentless 24/7 non-stop sensationalist coverage of this incident.
So Father Whateley stood up on his sermon and told his congregation that Gaff should have gotten a minimim 12 weeks for an action entirely comparable to a 5 week incidents in the very recent past, and then he brings on a guest who wants Whateley's already absurd 12 weeks to become 12 months. It is so ridiculous.
I hear he got 8 weeks, which is slightly harsh but in the ballpark of reasonable. Thankfully some sanity has prevailed where it matters.
Come on mate. The poster you're responding to isn't a dill.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-08-2018, 02:17 AM
#368
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Come on mate. The poster you're responding to isn't a dill.
It's ok to have a disagreement with a fellow poster. Ozza and I are actually in agreement with the Gaff penalty but have differing opinions on the way that Whateley has articulated his position on this and other issues. I happen to find Whateley to be a self-serving wanker who is using his now high profile commercial positions to become an influencer of AFL messaging and policy, and Ozza has a contrary view of Whateley which is perfectly fine. Neither view is right or wrong. From my perspective as an example, Whateley does not dare question Jordan Lewis (an AFL360 colleague) breaking Patrick Cripps' jaw last year with a deliberate punch and getting 3 weeks but then he goes postal on Gaff for a similar action and (slightly lesser) outcome. He fails the credibility sniff test.
8 weeks is a very long penalty, more than Hall who had a long rap sheet. Gaff has been significantly punished and rightfully so - it was a dog act off the ball and had severe ramifications on an innocent victim. But now hopefully the AFL recognises that they have allowed punching to go virtually unpunished for far too long, and they bring in steps next season to properly punish the act of deliberate punching and not just focus on the outcome. One can only hope.
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08-08-2018, 02:40 AM
#369
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Of course it is Sedat.
I'm not the WOOF police mate, just pointing out that Ozza probably earned a more direct response than he received.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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08-08-2018, 11:09 AM
#370
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
comrade
Yeah, it’s a curly one for sure. If he’d clipped Callan Ward’s cement jaw for example, we’re probably talking a few weeks and much less outrage.
Which begs the question what is Zaine Cordy's knee made from!
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08-08-2018, 07:28 PM
#371
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
What was it that Campbell Brown got for that sucker punch from behind on Ward when he was still with us? That was one of the dirtiest punches the game has seen.
A plum commentating gig on channel 7 because he's a good bloke.
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08-08-2018, 09:23 PM
#372
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
A plum commentating gig on channel 7 because he's a good bloke.
Aye, just ask Steven May.
Having to cop this rock ape in front of a microphone galls me more than any other dipshit ex-player currently stinking up the footy media landscape, and it's a deep field.
And you'd reckon a prerequisite for gracing tv screens would mean introducing the bastard to a hair brush at some stage too, but nope, no worries Browny, just roll up with your best impression of a fresh turd rolled in pubes.
Signed, triggered.
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08-08-2018, 09:42 PM
#373
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
Aye, just ask Steven May.
Having to cop this rock ape in front of a microphone galls me more than any other dipshit ex-player currently stinking up the footy media landscape, and it's a deep field.
And you'd reckon a prerequisite for gracing tv screens would mean introducing the bastard to a hair brush at some stage too, but nope, no worries Browny, just roll up with your best impression of a fresh turd rolled in pubes.
Signed, triggered.
I feel you, but shit blokes getting looked after when their careers are done is one of the scourges of the cult of celebrity that surrounds AFL.
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09-08-2018, 12:40 PM
#374
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Greystache
Which begs the question what is Zaine Cordy's knee made from!
Probably the same material as his fist, which is clearly stronger than muscle and bone:
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09-08-2018, 01:30 PM
#375
Re: MRP Thread 2018
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Probably the same material as his fist, which is clearly stronger than muscle and bone:
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Love that photo
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