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30-08-2018, 02:57 PM
#466
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
Jeanette54
So good to know that we can continue to enjoy watching him for another year.
Dale is very definitely the thinking woman's player of choice.
My wife just has other thoughts about Dale, none of which I can list on here.
She is very happy he is playing another year.
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30-08-2018, 05:56 PM
#467
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Smith signs on - read here
Can we re -rookie him? Not sure how this works
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30-08-2018, 06:29 PM
#468
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Poor list management IMO. I'd be waiting until the trade and maybe draft period is done before signing him again.
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30-08-2018, 06:49 PM
#469
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Smith signs on - read
here
Can we re -rookie him? Not sure how this works
Not sure. He was already on the rookie list for the maximum 3 years from 2015-2017. At the end of last year we had to delist him and re-draft him in the rookie draft. Unsure if he has reset as a rookie and this counts as his second year? I would have let him go but I hope at least he isn't taking a primary list spot, the article is unclear.
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30-08-2018, 06:58 PM
#470
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Yay!
So Wallis and Dahl might being leaving but we secured Smith's signature.....Riiiiggghhtt.
I hope we have an amazing trade week and land a couple of gems through the draft because this makes me very nervous.
They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
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30-08-2018, 07:14 PM
#471
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
F.M.D.
By the language, I think we have re-signed him to his rookie contract. I would expect to read that we have 'elevated' him to the senior list of that's what we've done. Why would we do either, I don't know. He looks like he trains hard and buys in, but there's a massive lack of any accomplishment on field. NMM should've taken up skate boarding.
Now just give Honeychurch a three year deal and this embolism in my chest can finally explode.
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30-08-2018, 07:33 PM
#472
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
I will never see #16 the same!!
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30-08-2018, 07:41 PM
#473
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
We shouldn’t be surprised Smith was given another year considering he played most games when fit in the second half of the season.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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30-08-2018, 07:44 PM
#474
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
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30-08-2018, 07:49 PM
#475
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
I can't see how is he a rookie, I think he is now on the senior list
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30-08-2018, 07:58 PM
#476
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I can't see how is he a rookie, I think he is now on the senior list
I don't think he can unless we delist and then redraft. He's on our senior list now. Not sure how I feel about that.
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30-08-2018, 08:03 PM
#477
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
A rookie could be anything. They could be a total flop or a breakout success. Smith is at best on shown ability a fringe backup player. I'd kind of prefer the gamble if I'm thinking about the long term.
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30-08-2018, 08:09 PM
#478
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
hujsh
A rookie could be anything. They could be a total flop or a breakout success. Smith is at best on shown ability a fringe backup player. I'd kind of prefer the gamble if I'm thinking about the long term.
Ditto. We could get a NMM or a Gowers in lieu of Smith. Id take that bet. If Smith has a main list spot with very little to show why he deserves it, then Power doesn't hold dear how important a main list spot really is. Smith looks like a really good human being, but he's not an AFL standard player.
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30-08-2018, 11:41 PM
#479
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
F.M.D.
By the language, I think we have re-signed him to his rookie contract. I would expect to read that we have 'elevated' him to the senior list of that's what we've done. Why would we do either, I don't know. He looks like he trains hard and buys in, but there's a massive lack of any accomplishment on field. NMM should've taken up skate boarding.
Now just give Honeychurch a three year deal and this embolism in my chest can finally explode.
I watched the replay of the first and last quarter of the Richmond match and in particular concentrated on Smith. Although he made a couple of disposal errors, overall he contributed well. eg: Nice handball to Greene for him to get a goal.
Let's see how he goes before some of us put the knife in.
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31-08-2018, 12:07 AM
#480
Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I watched the replay of the first and last quarter of the Richmond match and in particular concentrated on Smith. Although he made a couple of disposal errors, overall he contributed well. eg: Nice handball to Greene for him to get a goal.
Let's see how he goes before some of us put the knife in.
I did the same. There was a clear handling error that cost us, but apart from that he was fine - in light of his experience.
The guy has just come off two years of knee injuries, essentially missing the most important part of his development as a league footballer. The fact he is polarising to fans, probably suggests given the previous mentioned issues having him around with hopefully some continuity, isn't such a bad thing.
He may not ever be first 22 (full compliment) as a walk up, but neither was the likes of Suckling and many of the - at the time - ordinary Hawthorn premiership players over the years. If we think we are genuine finals contenders next year (which is what we should be aiming for), and Roarke can add reliable depth as he improves then I don't see what the issue is. He will definitely work hard and add more than pretty much anyone we're likely to pick after our pick ten (or 22, depending on how high the AFL want to get on *!*!*!*!ing the draft) and Rhylee's eventual pick.
We as fans throw ourselves about the place too often when it comes to list management. If we thought there's better on our list or prospects coming onto the list in the near term who could perform better than Roarke in the specific roles we need him filling then he wouldn't have been signed.
Time will tell, but in this context Roarke is probably the safest bet for a final list spot.
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