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The age on Smith is a no from me .
Martin’s got great tools to be a star , but he’s been disappointing so far
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I'm not that worried about Smith's age, that's 31 at the end of next year-my only slight concern that he may be subject to old man soft tissue injuries like St Kilda got sucked in with Hannaberry-but he looks and plays like a young man still.
Martin would be huge for us. He has all the tools we need, pace, class, footy nous and surgical footskills.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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No and no my god what a waste of cash and picks! Smith will be nearly 32 and past his best and Martin is inconsistent and lazy. Please don't let this be true!
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Sorry the only reason why I'm not keen on Smith is his age. He turns 31 next year, but yes he's a gun.
Very good point I didn't realise thought he was the other side of 30. Martin it is
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A yes for me with Jack Martin if he’s open to coming to us and we weren’t forced to pay overs.
Genuine elite talent who could prosper under our developing leaders.
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I'm not averse to either Smith or Martin at the right price.
I'm just not convinced Martin would be on the table for a fair price, and a fair price would not be our 1st pick in 2019. Not for his output to date.
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No for Smith from me, we are miles off a premiership window so all hes doing is stealing a kids spot for a season or two.
Martin fills a need and is in the right age group.
The curse is dead.
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If Smith was pick 50-70 like Lewis & Mitchell, and it’s really just salary. Then I’m in.
Martin seems flashy, but doesn’t score a lot (4.10 this year, 10 games). I’d like some more goal scoring power.
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With the Tomlinson media comments last week. We’d be allegedly hoping for Tomlinson (KPD), Smith (Wing), Martin (mid).
Tommo is a FA. Smith must be a late pick like Lewis & Mitchell. Martin isn’t worth Pick 5, so maybe a downgrade & 2nd rounder. So we’d have a strong draft presence too.
That would pretty much use our cap and cap bank.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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28-05-2019, 11:56 PM
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Do we really need another Left foot Hawk has been.
On a serious note, we don't need a player like Smith, however we can use some outside pace like Martin.
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29-05-2019, 12:02 AM
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Like the thought of getting Martin. Heads into what is likely his best years.
Isaac Smith is a very good footballer - his age means that we have to be careful about what the cost is.
Both players cover the ground well and add some polish - if we think we aren't that far from contending again.
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29-05-2019, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
If Smith was pick 50-70 like Lewis & Mitchell, and it’s really just salary. Then I’m in.
Same. Also the Hawks owe us a friendly trade for Smith as payback for us giving them a 31yo future Norm Smith medalist and a triple premiership player for bugger-all in a trade.
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29-05-2019, 12:42 AM
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I wouldn't call Martin soft but there's not much of him, he struggles with the physical side of the game
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29-05-2019, 01:07 AM
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With the emergence of himmelberg and Darcy forgerty in the wings , Lynch in fwd 50 and greenwood and O’Brien chop out , Josh Jenkins days are numbered .he be at best insurance cover for these guys by 2022. Can’t ruck, does he play 100% of game time like ben brown ?
I be throwing kitchen sink at Ben brown or Peter Wright . We need a Rory Lobb type which means 800k a year
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29-05-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Sorry the only reason why I'm not keen on Smith is his age. He turns 31 next year, but yes he's a gun.
He's a pass given he's probably only got 2-3 years left.
Bevo certainly loves he's left footed Hawthorn player doesn't he!