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Re: Jordan Roughead
Agree with all the previous posts, one thing that concerns me also is how are we perceived amongst other AFL players as a destination? Considering we have struggled to land A graders this could be a concern.
Players will fall out with coaches of course, Lachie Neale and Ross Lyon an example, and players have improved with us as explained but it's certainly something to consider.
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Agree with all the previous posts, one thing that concerns me also is how are we perceived amongst other AFL players as a destination? Considering we have struggled to land A graders this could be a concern.
Players will fall out with coaches of course, Lachie Neale and Ross Lyon an example, and players have improved with us as explained but it's certainly something to consider.
I agree, an opportunity worth exploring
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Agree with all the previous posts, one thing that concerns me also is how are we perceived amongst other AFL players as a destination? Considering we have struggled to land A graders this could be a concern.
Players will fall out with coaches of course, Lachie Neale and Ross Lyon an example, and players have improved with us as explained but it's certainly something to consider.
The thing is when you have 45 players at a club, they are not all going to be 100% happy for various reasons. If a player is not getting games, and think they should be, they will be disgruntled and want to change to a new club.
Roughie is a great guy, and who knows what happened behind closed doors, there are always two sides to a story. Take a person when they get the sack, they publicly say they resigned.
It was obvious that Roughie wasn't the greatest tap ruck in the AFL and was struggling to get a game. It was also obvious our coaches didn't see him slotting into the backline, or maybe he just wanted a change.
I say good luck to him, but I don't read into his departure that there are issues at the club with players overall.
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The thing is when you have 45 players at a club, they are not all going to be 100% happy for various reasons. If a player is not getting games, and think they should be, they will be disgruntled and want to change to a new club.
Roughie is a great guy, and who knows what happened behind closed doors, there are always two sides to a story. Take a person when they get the sack, they publicly say they resigned.
It was obvious that Roughie wasn't the greatest tap ruck in the AFL and was struggling to get a game. It was also obvious our coaches didn't see him slotting into the backline, or maybe he just wanted a change.
I say good luck to him, but I don't read into his departure that there are issues at the club with players overall.
There are probably ok & valid reasons for each individual who departs a club, but at some point it reaches critical mass where we have to at least pose the questions of whether our club has somehow become an unhappy place to be. Roughie’s comments are that turning point for me.
It can’t always be “them” and not “us.”
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
The bulldog tragician
There are probably ok & valid reasons for each individual who departs a club, but at some point it reaches critical mass where we have to at least pose the questions of whether our club has somehow become an unhappy place to be. Roughie’s comments are that turning point for me.
It can’t always be “them” and not “us.”
Critical Mass? I don't see one.
I do agree and have said before, we need to change up the assistant coaches and get some new ideas in.
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Critical Mass? I don't see one.
I do agree and have said before, we need to change up the assistant coaches and get some new ideas in.
I used to be similar in thought. I'm starting to question things now. The flip side of attracting elite talent is of major concern to me and I see a correlation. What's the answer I'm unsure.
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
I used to be similar in thought. I'm starting to question things now. The flip side of attracting elite talent is of major concern to me and I see a correlation. What's the answer I'm unsure.
We have never really attracted elite talent, so nothing has changed there.
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Re: Jordan Roughead
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We have never really attracted elite talent, so nothing has changed there.
We attract them later in their career's. Cloke, Hall and Aker for example would have been headline additions if they were traded for 2 or 3 years earlier
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