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20-07-2019, 04:14 PM
#151
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
bornadog
In what way?
I think it has something related to the assistant coaches around Bevo. GVG can clarify that.
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20-07-2019, 05:20 PM
#152
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
bornadog
In what way?
I'd have him more focused on match day rather than match committee and I'd try to have spending less time in the media
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20-07-2019, 05:29 PM
#153
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I'd have him more focused on match day rather than match committee and I'd try to have spending less time in the media
Being out of the country I don't see it, but how much media does he actually do? I didn't think he was overly exposed.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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20-07-2019, 06:21 PM
#154
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Being out of the country I don't see it, but how much media does he actually do? I didn't think he was overly exposed.
Very little, but he hates it at a fundamental level. Doesn’t participate in the boys club element and it gets distracting when they butt heads.
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20-07-2019, 06:33 PM
#155
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Being out of the country I don't see it, but how much media does he actually do? I didn't think he was overly exposed.
As SOS said, he doesn't like the media and to be frank I don't think he is that good at it. Getting into feuds doesn't serve him nor the club well either.
He's got to focus more on the match requirements than trying to revolutionise the game as well.
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20-07-2019, 06:49 PM
#156
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
OK.
I think there's elements of the AFL media he's extremely cynical towards and outright despises, but there's also plenty of examples of him being extremely courteous and warm with other elements of it. That he gets caught up or fixated on some issues or media people actually points to some positives within his personality that I think make him such a good coach when he is focused.
Indifference towards the bullshit the likes of Barrett and some others spin is precisely the reason why they are able to get away with it so regularly. At least Bevo is willing to fight a fight - albeit too often in some cases - others aren't willing to, because as we've seen, if left unchecked some of the rubbish has a real impact on the lives of those it is targeted towards.
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20-07-2019, 08:07 PM
#157
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I'd have him more focused on match day rather than match committee and I'd try to have spending less time in the media
The coach has to be on the match committee??? This is a strange comment
Originally Posted by
SonofScray
Very little, but he hates it at a fundamental level. Doesn’t participate in the boys club element and it gets distracting when they butt heads.
The only media work Bevo does is the weekly press conferences before and after the match
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
As SOS said, he doesn't like the media and to be frank I don't think he is that good at it. Getting into feuds doesn't serve him nor the club well either.
He's got to focus more on the match requirements than trying to revolutionise the game as well.
The only feud he has had is with Barrett, and I don't blame him, the guy is a knob of the highest order?
Are there any other examples of feuds?
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20-07-2019, 08:13 PM
#158
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The coach has to be on the match committee??? This is a strange comment
Where is that written in stone? I don't mind him having input on selections but he shouldn't be close to having final or total say.
We've played substantially better football once the selections improved
I'd also prefer that he was at arms length on trading and recruiting decisions
He's a fine match day coach, I think it would serve everyone well for that to be his focus
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20-07-2019, 08:23 PM
#159
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
The coach is accountable for performances so has the final say in selections in my view.
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20-07-2019, 08:45 PM
#160
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Where is that written in stone? I don't mind him having input on selections but he shouldn't be close to having final or total say.
We've played substantially better football once the selections improved
How do you know he has the final say? In any case, he is accountable for the team performance. We played better football when players found form and were promoted.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I'd also prefer that he was at arms length on trading and recruiting decisions
He's a fine match day coach, I think it would serve everyone well for that to be his focus
I remember mentioning on this forum that Rocket said he didn't get involved in trading and recruiting, and basically most on here said I lied about that and couldn't believe it.
Bevo says, he is one voice on a committee of six - I think that is fine as long as he is following those rules.
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21-07-2019, 12:12 AM
#161
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Coach has to have final say in selection.
Coach has to front the media. Bevo does the very bare minimum.
His focus couldn’t be more narrow.
His support team could and should be reviewed to ensure they’re adding value.
A head coach can’t hide. They can’t delegate all the key decisions. They have to be good at lots of things.
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21-07-2019, 12:11 PM
#162
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Coach has to have final say in selection.
Coach has to front the media. Bevo does the very bare minimum.
His focus couldn’t be more narrow.
His support team could and should be reviewed to ensure they’re adding value.
A head coach can’t hide. They can’t delegate all the key decisions. They have to be good at lots of things.
I get that this is a perceived position but I don't believe that should definitely be the case. The coaches job is to get wins on the board for the players he is given and that includes recruitment. When Bomber Thompson had his focus narrowed Geelong imporived immensely. This can also work for a coach like Bevo.
Bevo is a great match day coach who's right on top of his game at the moment. I love the way he has swung Naughton back at crucial times. Let him be the coach first and foremost and let others share some of the other responsibilities.
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21-07-2019, 01:38 PM
#163
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I get that this is a perceived position but I don't believe that should definitely be the case. The coaches job is to get wins on the board for the players he is given and that includes recruitment. When Bomber Thompson had his focus narrowed Geelong imporived immensely. This can also work for a coach like Bevo.
Bevo is a great match day coach who's right on top of his game at the moment. I love the way he has swung Naughton back at crucial times. Let him be the coach first and foremost and let others share some of the other responsibilities.
Recruitment is one thing, match committee is something completely different. Can you actually explain how it would work practically to have a situation where the coach doesn't have final say in selection?
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21-07-2019, 01:42 PM
#164
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
Agreed. He has the match day strategies , the overall game plan. I can't fathom how he could effectively execute either without the right balance of players playing in the roles he wants them. To me, having the last say in who he has on the park is one of the most critical aspects influencing the success of both. He should also know the players strengths and weaknesses more intimately than anyone else at the club. At least that's what I would have thought..
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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28-06-2021, 05:25 PM
#165
Re: Welcome to the Kennel, Mr Beveridge
**Bump**
Last season there were a few on WOOF who were calling for Bevo to walk, saying that his days should be numbered. As we sit 11-3 right now and presumably finals bound, just wondering what people think of Bevo now? Are there still naysayers?