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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
Sedat
I don't get the Libba hesitancy. Take away his crap 2017 and he has barely ever let us down when he plays. Prior to his knee injury last year he was in our best handful of players. His hands are elite in tight and he is a natural ball winner. Our midfield depth is nowhere near as deep as we think, and we surely need a proven extractor in there when we generally concede the hitout more often than not.
If he's 100% right to go, let him rip. He certainly won't take a backward step when GWS unleash the heavy artillery.
He's slower than my grandmothers half recharged scooter, provided he is played correctly and frees up someone who has leg speed, then its great. Sadly when he did play he was exposed a lot.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
My team for this week.
Daniel, Lew Young, Williams
JJ, Keath, Crozier
Jong, Bont, Richards
Vanda, Naughton, Wallis
Cav, Bruce, Weightman
Trengove, Macrae, Smith
Inter. Libba, Dunks, English, Lippa
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
bornadog
My team for this week.
Daniel, Lew Young, Williams
JJ, Keath, Crozier
Jong, Bont, Richards
Vanda, Naughton, Wallis
Cav, Bruce, Weightman
Trengove, Macrae, Smith
Inter. Libba, Dunks, English, Lippa
with Williams, JJ and Crozier on the backline I don’t understand why Daniel is there too. The pathetic amount of scoring recently demands an experienced general on the forward line. In this team half of the forwards contribute a total of 3 games experience.
If you swap Daniel and Vanda you gain speed off the backline and organisation on the forward line. And I would expect Daniel’s delivery to make Cav’s and Weightman’s game better.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
IN:
Libba, Trengove, Shache, Lewis Young, Cordy, McLean
OUT
Gardner, Gowers, Lloyd, JJ, Bruce, Bevo (omitted)
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
SonofScray
IN:
Libba, Trengove, Shache, Lewis Young, Cordy, McLean
OUT
Gardner, Gowers, Lloyd, JJ, Bruce, Bevo (omitted)
How would you line up the team with those ins & outs?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
Danjul
with Williams, JJ and Crozier on the backline I don’t understand why Daniel is there too. The pathetic amount of scoring recently demands an experienced general on the forward line. In this team half of the forwards contribute a total of 3 games experience.
If you swap Daniel and Vanda you gain speed off the backline and organisation on the forward line. And I would expect Daniel’s delivery to make Cav’s and Weightman’s game better.
Yes that is possible, why not.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
My dream never-gonna-happen 22:
B: Crozier Naughton Williams
HB: LaYoung LewYoung Keath
C: Richards Dunkley Smith
HF: Lipinski English Cavarra
F: Weightman Bruce Wallis
R: Trengove Bont Macrae
I: Daniel Libba Vandermeer McLean
If Vandermeer doesn't pull up, Jong takes his spot.
Trengove to primarily ruck all day, with English having a few spells on the ball but mainly playing forward or even on the wing & in defence. Try him as a legitimate utility.
We probably wouldn't win with this side, but it would be twice as competitive as the teams we've rolled out the last 2 games.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
comrade
My dream never-gonna-happen 22:
B: Crozier Naughton Williams
HB: LaYoung LewYoung Keath
C: Richards Dunkley Smith
HF: Lipinski English Cavarra
F: Weightman Bruce Wallis
R: Trengove Bont Macrae
I: Daniel Libba Vandermeer McLean
If Vandermeer doesn't pull up, Jong takes his spot.
Trengove to primarily ruck all day, with English having a few spells on the ball but mainly playing forward or even on the wing & in defence. Try him as a legitimate utility.
We probably wouldn't win with this side, but it would be twice as competitive as the teams we've rolled out the last 2 games.
I think we need JJ at HB that backline plays too tall.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
I think we need JJ at HB that backline plays too tall.
I think it matches up fine against GWS with Cameron, Finalyson and Himmelberg.
And even if there is one tall too many, I'd try and get Keath off the leash to zone off as an intercepter.
JJ doesn't deserve a game after last night. You've still got Williams, Crozier and Lachie Young who can run and carry off half back. Plus Daniel & Richards who can roll back if needed.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
ReLoad
He's slower than my grandmothers half recharged scooter, provided he is played correctly and frees up someone who has leg speed, then its great. Sadly when he did play he was exposed a lot.
Yes, he's lost a little pace.
Read the autopsy thread though - not a single reason posited for our loss is legspeed. It's effort, care, skills etc. Libba bleeds for the club, is tough as nails and as a beautiful kick if given time on his left boot. If he's close to fit he comes in for mine.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Yes, he's lost a little pace.
Read the autopsy thread though - not a single reason posited for our loss is legspeed. It's effort, care, skills etc. Libba bleeds for the club, is tough as nails and as a beautiful kick if given time on his left boot. If he's close to fit he comes in for mine.
I’d add that he has the required hardness and mongrel needed to help tip the contests in the middle in our favour. I’d rather Libber in the maul feeding out the quick handball to Bontempelli et al. Josh Kennedy is pretty damn slow and was about Sydney’s best on the weekend for this reason.
The Saints were able to win the ball out of the contest way too easily, way too often. Is there anything worse than a ball kicked deep into the defence for a team that decides to play 6 million HBF’s and minimum chips KPD’s?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
The Adelaide Connection
The Saints were able to win the ball out of the contest way too easily, way too often.
Clerances were three different in their favour and we won the stoppages, so this is not true.
The worse stat were the clangers. We had 58 to their 44 - we handed them the game.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
A major part of the Dog’s problem is the lack of success in getting the ball to a runner who has space to run.
This has been leading to unhelpful handball and poor delivery.
We need a player whose talent is getting the ball to Bont or JJ who can open the game up and deliver with precision. That person doesn’t need speed. They need the talents that Libba has displayed.
(with those knees I prefer that he doesn’t run, walking is sufficient)
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
Danjul
A major part of the Dog’s problem is the lack of success in getting the ball to a runner who has space to run.
This has been leading to unhelpful handball and poor delivery.
We need a player whose talent is getting the ball to Bont or JJ who can open the game up and deliver with precision. That person doesn’t need speed. They need the talents that Libba has displayed.
(with those knees I prefer that he doesn’t run, walking is sufficient)
I would be suprised if Libba doesn't play this week, unless he has had a setback
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Re: Always Right Match Committee - Round 3 Vs GWS 2020
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Clerances were three different in their favour and we won the stoppages, so this is not true.
The worse stat were the clangers. We had 58 to their 44 - we handed them the game.
Just because the numbers were relatively even doesn't mean that it isn't true. I am asserting that this should have been an area of the game (on paper at least) we should have dominated, not lost overall.
Critically, the centre clearances were 14-9 their way. If you are going to pick a team with as few KPD's as we did (knowing they were going in tall) you are banking on winning centre clearances.
The clangers were definitely a problem. So was the ease that the took the ball out of the contest on far too many occasions.