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15-08-2020, 01:02 AM
#226
Re: Hamling a Dog
AS good as Hamling has proven to be; and as nice as it would be to welcome a Premiership hero back I can't get over the injury he has and how it has seriously impeded his ability to get on the track at Freo. Yes he would be an updrade on Gardiner, but if he ends up as a permanent sick note then its a waster. Pass for me.
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15-08-2020, 01:29 AM
#227
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Johannisen.
For all of JJ's faults, we sometimes overlook his skillsets.
I've been critical of his onfield mistakes, and I still think his protracted contract negotiation post premiership was ordinary.
However, his line breaking, metres gained, and the fact he is regularly targeted by opposition coaches speaks to his value to us.
He ain't going anywhere, and we just need to find other weaponry that enables us to maximise the strengths he does have to their full extent.
Which is why if we think, the GWS vs Bulldog rivalry doesn't preclude it, Zac Williams should be large on our radar.
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15-08-2020, 02:54 AM
#228
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
That's like, your opinion, man.
From its inception, and evermore, literally the best retort ever!
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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15-08-2020, 03:25 AM
#229
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
jeemak
A cut of ten would be devastating to the standard of the game. You need as many players as you can afford in the elite environment as the difference between player 35 and 45 is marginal so the elite experience needs to be spread across as many in this bracket as possible.
The clubs have to get the wages down and the further you go it means the better players don't have to lose that much
I don't think cutting the numbers by 5 players will get the clubs there
I think it will be 8 players so that takes it down to 37 players on the list and then the clubs will have to lose another 4 players to allow them to draft 3 players and add one via a fee agency
That might mean we have to get down to 33 players either after the trade period but certainly before the draft
I agree it's a huge challenge, there won't be a lot of room to hold onto marginal or injury prone players
There will probably be another adjustment to the footy department as well
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15-08-2020, 03:31 AM
#230
Re: Hamling a Dog
It might be simplistic, but shouldn't it be a straight line of reduced numbers aligned with spend?
Why should player twenty six take a bigger pay cut than player number five or vice versa?
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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15-08-2020, 03:43 AM
#231
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
jeemak
It might be simplistic, but shouldn't it be a straight line of reduced numbers aligned with spend?
Why should player twenty six take a bigger pay cut than player number five or vice versa?
It will probably be a percentage applied to the cut in salary.
There are some challenges for the clubs before they get into 2021 season
Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
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15-08-2020, 04:15 AM
#232
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
It will probably be a percentage applied to the cut in salary.
There are some challenges for the clubs before they get into 2021 season
Yeah, I think we agree I just want to see it being applied in a linear way rather than weighted to the better players or against them.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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15-08-2020, 11:29 AM
#233
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Alright a cut of 10 is probably a bit much but even a cut of 10% is 4 players plus whatever you need to make room for draftees so you are looking at 7 minimum. I think the point stands that it could be a really easy year to get a club to give up a non core player, regardless of whats going back the other way.
It could be goodbye rookie list plus 5 senior players?
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15-08-2020, 12:22 PM
#234
Re: Hamling a Dog
I haven't been watching him very closely, has he actually played well?
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15-08-2020, 12:31 PM
#235
Re: Hamling a Dog
Just a reminder Hamling was basically traded for pick 35 as a premiership defender.
He is now injured and walked out on the club, he will be cheap as chips on a trade front if we are keen.
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15-08-2020, 01:35 PM
#236
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
Cordy, Keath Hamling
Crozier, Daniel, Wood/Duryea
Works for me.
Slooooow
Need more run in that lineup. Where is Bailey Williams? JJ and how will Zac Willams fit in there? One of Cordy or Wood (or both) needs to come out of there order to fit Hamling. I feel like we're going backwards bringing him in and I'm not sure he's a big upgrade on Cordy, maybe I'm wrong.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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15-08-2020, 06:55 PM
#237
Re: Hamling a Dog
Originally Posted by
1eyedog
Slooooow
Need more run in that lineup. Where is Bailey Williams? JJ and how will Zac Willams fit in there? One of Cordy or Wood (or both) needs to come out of there order to fit Hamling. I feel like we're going backwards bringing him in and I'm not sure he's a big upgrade on Cordy, maybe I'm wrong.
That's actually something I hadn't considered.
I'm not sure where the speed comes from. I have written Johannisen off.
Wood/Duryea out for Williams.
I am definitely viewing Hamling with rose coloured glasses. A wise man on WOOF once said objectivity is boring. I'm trying the philosophy on for size.
"It's over. It's all over."
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16-08-2020, 01:34 PM
#238
Re: Hamling a Dog
Hamlings manager Colin Young has always seemed to me like a specialist at getting his clients big money deals or big money deals for moves. Seems to recognise their peak value and negotiate aggressively then.
https://csports.com.au/talent/
He's done it twice for Brad Hill.
He does represents English and Naughton so we would want to have good relations with him