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28-09-2020, 08:25 PM
#211
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Would we have any interest in Polec? I honestly don't know the pros and cons about him as a player but from what I've seen he can certainly play. If Norf cough up some of his salary I can see him sitting on a wing opposite Hunter. You have to wonder though what the reasons are that the Kangas are keen to move him on.
Three clubs in his career already looking at a fourth, you'd have to ask the question for sure whether there's something NQR.
The rumour goes he was asked to run with Cripps and refused but no idea if true.
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28-09-2020, 11:50 PM
#212
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Preuss on the move. At just 25 years old, could be a good pickup
I cannot see any possible way that Bevo would play Preuss in anything other than an extreme emergency.
He certainly doesn't appear to have the aerobic capacity to be the extra midfielder that Bevo requires and as a second ruck, where could we hide him. Bevo would prefer Dunkley.
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28-09-2020, 11:56 PM
#213
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
I cannot see any possible way that Bevo would play Preuss in anything other than an extreme emergency.
He certainly doesn't appear to have the aerobic capacity to be the extra midfielder that Bevo requires and as a second ruck, where could we hide him. Bevo would prefer Dunkley.
Forgetting about minor matters such as availability, what current rucks (or reserve rucks) would Bevo want, and more importantly use?
Or is it a case we will never play a second ruck and just perhaps get another one in case English goes down?
If the latter, why would such a ruckman want to come to us and possibly never play?
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29-09-2020, 12:03 AM
#214
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Three clubs in his career already looking at a fourth, you'd have to ask the question for sure whether there's something NQR.
The rumour goes he was asked to run with Cripps and refused but no idea if true.
When he came to Port from Brisbane he allegedly presented in awful shape. A mate of mine was at an amateur club that Polec joined up with in preseason to try to help get in shape after Port gave him a bollocking. Apparently he was off the back of the pack in every running drill. My mate also told me he was known to like to party.
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29-09-2020, 10:27 AM
#215
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
JYE CALDWELL (GWS)
Draft picks: Late first-round / early second-round pick
Value on open market: $400,000-500,000 per season
Think this could be a shrewd investment. I would especially at 400k
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
TOBY NANKERVIS (RICH)
Draft picks: Early-to-mid second-round pick
Value on open market: $450,000-550,000 per season
I would do this but he's likely to remain at the Tigers
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
XAVIER O'HALLORAN (GWS)
Draft picks: Mid-to-late second round pick
Value on open market: $250,000-350,000 per season
I like this idea but think a 3rd round pick is more appropriate.
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
JACK LONIE (STK)
Draft picks: Late second-round / early third-round pick
Value on open market: $250,000-350,000 per season
I don't see it myself. No chance a 2nd rounder surely.
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29-09-2020, 10:36 AM
#216
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Would we have any interest in Polec? I honestly don't know the pros and cons about him as a player but from what I've seen he can certainly play. If Norf cough up some of his salary I can see him sitting on a wing opposite Hunter. You have to wonder though what the reasons are that the Kangas are keen to move him on.
I'd rather Graham Polak
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29-09-2020, 10:39 AM
#217
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
I'd rather Graham Polak
I'd' rather the tram.
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29-09-2020, 10:46 AM
#218
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
I'd' rather the tram.
At least you know a tram will go forward and back and not discriminate in its efforts.
Polec is like a Shaun Higgins except crapper and one sided.
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29-09-2020, 10:48 AM
#219
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
Think this could be a shrewd investment. I would especially at 400k. JYE CALDWELL (GWS)
One rumour had us interested in him.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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29-09-2020, 10:50 AM
#220
Re: 2020 Player movement
That’s pretty good value for Caldwell. I suspect it will be more than that if a bidding ware ensues.
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29-09-2020, 11:13 AM
#221
Re: 2020 Player movement
Can honestly say I have no idea if Caldwell is any good or not. I didn't watch a heap of GWS this year (they were insipid most of time I did) and if Caldwell played in the game time I saw, he didn't stand out or do anything of note.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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29-09-2020, 11:15 AM
#222
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
bornadog
One rumour had us interested in him.
I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?
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29-09-2020, 11:30 AM
#223
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?
Like you I’ve only seen us linked to O’Halloran (who is a dogs fan so hopefully that goes in our favour). I’d take them both, but I’m not sure how, won’t have much left by the time the Crows screw us into burning maximum points on JUH.
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29-09-2020, 11:49 AM
#224
Re: 2020 Player movement
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?
Nope, Caldwell - but it was a rumour
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Jye Caldwell from GWS to where?
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29-09-2020, 12:01 PM
#225
Re: 2020 Player movement
Some of these trade values are ridiculous considering how little equivalent players have been traded for in the past.
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
XAVIER O'HALLORAN (GWS)
Draft picks: Mid-to-late second round pick
Aiden Bonar was also a high draft pick that barely played in his first two seasons through a combination of injuries and form. Went to North with a future 4th rounder for a future 3rd rounder, so stuff all.
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
JACK LONIE (STK)
Draft picks: Late second-round / early third-round pick
Dan Butler was a Premiership winning small forward that was on the fringes of selection that was traded for pick 56.
Lincoln McCarthy was a promising small forward that after many years in the system had been unable to secure himself a place in Geelongs forwardline, traded for an upgrade of pick 55 to 43 (and a downgrade of 59 to 62).
Gary Rohan was an established foward with unique attributes and a pretty decent career excluding finals. Traded for pick 62.
Dean Kent/Sam Lloyd are almost exact copies of Lonie in that they were fringe players that could perform on the day but never really found themselves secure in Melbournes/Richmonds team, traded for pick 65/64 respectively.
Who the hell would even consider an early third (pick 40ish, let alone a late second (30ish)?
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
NATHAN BROAD (RICH)
Draft picks: Mid-to-late second-round pick
Hahahahahaha.
Taylor Duryea, Nic Newman, Jack Scrimshaw went for a future fourth/future fourth/future third with a future fourth going the other way.
Sam Frost is probably a best case scenario trade and that was a a future second round pick and pick 50 for 42, 61 and a future fourth with Frost, and Broad is worth a lot less than Frost who is at least tall.
Who is stumping up mid to late second round picks for a role playing medium defender whose biggest asset is his girlfriends chest (allegedly)?
Originally Posted by
The Doctor
NAKIA COCKATOO (GEEL)
Draft picks: Third-round pick
The guy has been in the system for 6 years, is about to turn 24, and has played just 34 games due to a body made out of crepe paper, despite Geelong desperately play him whenever he looked close to fit. Bont is from the same draft and has played 110 more games than him.
He is worth nothing, but I'd probably put him in the same category as McCarthy and Bonar, so a future 3rd for a future 4th and Cockatoo seems about right.
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Fringe players are worth stuff all on the trading market, there's basically four trade values going around:
Gun: Asking price is two first rounders, you might get that but you'll be giving something back the other way, otherwise how does a first and a second for a third and the player sound?
Very good player: Asking price is a first rounder, late teens pick incoming (or two second rounders pretending to be worth the same).
Player with heaps of potential and promising formline: Second rounder incoming, but it'll be a late one.
Any kind of role player, super injured player, or fringe player: Ask for a third rounder, end up getting stuff all.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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