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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
No idea how good Russell is or isn't, but it's disappointing we didn't even survey the rest of the field.
We really need some fresh ideas and voices.
With all the coaching movements across the league, I'm sure we did our due dilligence and looked at plenty of different coaches to ensure we chose the best option...
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Was always gonna be $1.03 on Sportsbet lol
I will never see #16 the same!!
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
No idea how good Russell is or isn't, but it's disappointing we didn't even survey the rest of the field.
We really need some fresh ideas and voices.
While I would have liked us to have canvassed some other options the club clearly knew Gia was talking to Essendon and had their contingencies in place. Russell has to implement Bevo's game plan and develop the youngsters and is well placed to do so
When was the last time a former captain of Footscray ended up coaching them?
Where is Twodogs when you need him?
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
While I would have liked us to have canvassed some other options the club clearly knew Gia was talking to Essendon and had their contingencies in place. Russell has to implement Bevo's game plan and develop the youngsters and is well placed to do so
When was the last time a former captain of Footscray ended up coaching them?
Where is Twodogs when you need him?
Russell is like having a new coach anyhow. Previously he worked in player development and never got to implement some of his ideas. Of course he would have to follow Bevo's coaching, but pretty sure when he is coaching his own team, he will have ideas that he can bounce off Bevo.
As far as other roles, I am doubting we will make any other changes, but would be prudent to at least bring in one new assistant with some new ideas.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
azabob
I reckon Russell would see coaching the VFL team a great opportunity.
He clearly did!
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Russell is like having a new coach anyhow.
Nah not really. Sure he may have a few ideas that may get some more attention, but i doubt he has a big say in changes to our senior side.
This was a huge opportunity to do what we have needed to do for years, get fresh voices with experience elsewhere into the club, instead we appear to have made no effort to change up the status quo, even though it's seen us make minimal progress for 4 seasons now.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
soupaman
Nah not really. Sure he may have a few ideas that may get some more attention, but i doubt he has a big say in changes to our senior side.
This was a huge opportunity to do what we have needed to do for years, get fresh voices with experience elsewhere into the club, instead we appear to have made no effort to change up the status quo, even though it's seen us make minimal progress for 4 seasons now.
He would also largely have ideas from his time at Footscray/WBD. Not exactly bringing a perspective from outside the club
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
hujsh
He would also largely have ideas from his time at Footscray/WBD. Not exactly bringing a perspective from outside the club
Still a big change from Development coach to coaching your own team.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Well maybe he's highly rated and we thought he was the best...….but I wouldn't think that would have been on the back of any real testing of the market or trying to pry someone loose.
I guess all we can hope for is a couple of others to get poached in order to force our hand because we need a shake-up. Whilst I understand the sentiment in making sure as many people we did have employed get re-employed if possible, we've still got to improve and get better results.
TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Well maybe he's highly rated and we thought he was the best...….but I wouldn't think that would have been on the back of any real testing of the market or trying to pry someone loose.
I guess all we can hope for is a couple of others to get poached in order to force our hand because we need a shake-up. Whilst I understand the sentiment in making sure as many people we did have employed get re-employed if possible, we've still got to improve and get better results.
Like our list management at times it has more a vibe of doing everything we can to be a nice guy and employer instead of doing everything we can to win.
I should leave it alone but you're not right
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
He was rated extremely highly at the club from the moment he got to us.
I think we are under rating him on here.
His record tells you he is a winner and obviously knows a lot about the game , he also has a head start as he knows how we operate, game plans and players
I think it’s a great appointment.
Bring back the biff
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Gia leaving I think it was needed , not a fan of a player / coach only ever being at one club.
He personally will be better off seeing how other clubs work, go away learn the trade with different clubs and it will open his options.
Let’s face it we know he wants a senior role and we aren’t releasing Bevo anytime soon.
Bombers or North would be the best options niether have got a solid senior coach, chance to show them his wares and maybe get a gig if it arises.
Bring back the biff
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
ledge
He was rated extremely highly at the club from the moment he got to us.
I think we are under rating him on here.
His record tells you he is a winner and obviously knows a lot about the game , he also has a head start as he knows how we operate, game plans and players
I think it’s a great appointment.
Bevo is consistent too in showing loyalty if it has been earned.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
While I would have liked us to have canvassed some other options the club clearly knew Gia was talking to Essendon and had their contingencies in place. Russell has to implement Bevo's game plan and develop the youngsters and is well placed to do so
When was the last time a former captain of Footscray ended up coaching them?
Where is Twodogs when you need him?
In terms of captains going on to coach the club believe it or not it was EJ! In terms of players apart from Bevo it was Terry Walace and before him it was Terry Wheeler and before him Bluey Hampshire.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Assistant coaches merry go round
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
In terms of captains going on to coach the club believe it or not it was EJ! In terms of players apart from Bevo it was Terry Walace and before him it was Terry Wheeler and before him Bluey Hampshire.
Actually I'm wrong. Technically both Sutton and Whitten were captain coaches who didn't captain the club before they were appointed as captain coach. As far as I can make out the last man who captained the club and then went on to coach us was Alan Hopkins! Hopkins captained us in 1927/8 but another bloke (Paddy Scanlan) confusingly was playing coach but not captain. Hopkins then captain coaches us in 1930. So 90 years ago. I think that I have that right after much research and change of minds!
Interestingly it's now against AFL rules to have a captain coach so clubs can't manipulate the salary cap by "appointing" a player as the nominal coach and paying him outside of the cap.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.