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12-11-2020, 09:29 AM
#1396
Re: List Management for 2020/21
If it's a straight swap of Treloar for future 2nd, there is no denying that is an excellent value trade.
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12-11-2020, 09:30 AM
#1397
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
comrade
Future 2nd seems decent value but Collingwood would need to cough up a decent chunk of his wage. His value has been trashed by the Pies.
Can't see how we fit Dunkley and Treloar in the same midfield and both on decent dollars, so suggests we're planning on doing a deal with Essendon.
Sam Edmund reporting we're only offering $600k for Treloar. I hope that for all five years, and we make Collingwood pay up big.
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12-11-2020, 09:32 AM
#1398
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Sam Edmund reporting we're only offering $600k for Treloar. I hope that for all five years, and we make Collingwood pay up big.
Depending on the medical and trade, that’s worth backing.
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12-11-2020, 09:34 AM
#1399
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Treloar @ 600K for a future 2nd?
I'll buy Sam Power dinner and a movie if that happens.
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12-11-2020, 09:42 AM
#1400
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Treloar @ 600K for a future 2nd?
I'll buy Sam Power dinner and a movie if that happens.
Yep, that's a good deal.
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12-11-2020, 09:50 AM
#1401
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Treloar @ 600K for a future 2nd?
I'll buy Sam Power dinner and a movie if that happens.
The way he's going he'd get an uber fare out of you too
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12-11-2020, 09:54 AM
#1402
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Mofra
The way he's going he'd get an uber fare out of you too
It's the least I could do
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12-11-2020, 09:55 AM
#1403
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Well I'll be damned if that isn't exactly what I asked for. Only way it's more perfect is if they take Bailey Dale instead.
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12-11-2020, 10:05 AM
#1404
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
It's the least I could do
Sam seems the perfect gentlemen. Kiss on the cheek at your door and he’d be on his way.
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12-11-2020, 10:08 AM
#1405
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Sam seems the perfect gentlemen. Kiss on the cheek at your door and he’d be on his way.
Depends where TBB takes him to dinner.
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12-11-2020, 10:12 AM
#1406
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Depends where TBB takes him to dinner.
Open to any and all suggestions, let's celebrate the man.**
** Sam, please don't burn me by 7:30pm tonight with these comments.
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12-11-2020, 10:14 AM
#1407
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Depends where TBB takes him to dinner.
And also if Sam likes coffee. Sam wouldn't go up for coffee as it'd keep him up all night.
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12-11-2020, 10:24 AM
#1408
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Treloar for 600k a year + a future second is beyond a steal, that'll outshine any deal this year. Sam Power will have earned his $$$ if we pull that one off.
7+8 for Dunkley or hit rocks, it's that simple. Do not blink Power, do, not, blink.
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12-11-2020, 11:23 AM
#1409
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Originally Posted by
Mofra
The way he's going he'd get an uber fare out of you too
And a kiss goodnight. It's a great deal. Man the Pies are squeezed.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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12-11-2020, 01:05 PM
#1410
Re: List Management for 2020/21
Interesting take from a Pies fan. Make of this what you will:
Salary Cap - We need to move someone to be under next year, this has been an on going issue for the past 4-5 years. It has been caused by incentives in contracts not the base contracts. We got ourselves into a pattern of rolling over player insentive payouts owed that year to the following year. It has now got to the point the roll over effect has built up so much over the past 4 years this year we have to move someone. This started prior to Ned Guy, I know Ned Guy is a whipping boy around here, he actually has a plan to get us in a suitable position to be able to attract free agents. He has over paid some players for sure, but this started prior to him and to avoid this situation in the future his policy is higher base less to no performance based incentive to avoid this in the future.
Tom Lynch - He agreed to sign with Collingwood, we had to pull out of the deal when the contract we agreed with him was no longer feesable due to these performance based incentives. Richmond only became a serious option for Tom when we pulled out. The Buckley chat mid season was the scape goat, he was more pissed about us stuffing him around.
Adam Treloar - The leadership group suggested he be the one moved to save us cap, they are frustated as his lack of defensiveness and can't see us winning a premership with someone who only front runs and while he has pace to breakaway his foot skills don't do enough damage to be a purely offensive player. They also refuse to beleive he can cope being in Melbourne with his partner in Queensland, he did not request 2-3 days a week to go up there what so ever that is a rumour. But he has been known to not go to training and stay home if his partner was sick or had the sniffles, based on this they can't see how he can cope with being in another state from his partner and child. Is owed 900k in 2021 due to back payments of performance incentives / renegotation. It is not 900k for the life of the contract, it goes back to 600k for 2022 and then builds back up to 750-800k by the final year. The deal of us paying 300k is to cover that first year, it is not for the life of the contract. Apparently Bucks didn't tell him the leadership group wanted him out, but someone let it slip and he found out through the media and that was the point he realized he can't stay.
Jayden Stephenson - Is a headcase, loves himself and thinks he's made it already. His contract is 600k after he renegotiated after wining the rising star. Collingwood are sick of having to monitor a professional athlete in the gym, he is known to not stick to his dedicated plan to the point of Collingwood basically now having a full time babysitter with him ensuring he does the full gym session. He is known as FIGJAM for a reason and isn't the most loved player at the club. Collingwood are trying to move him for an asset as while he has talent, they don't believe he will ever reach his ceiling with his work ethic and attitude. He wants to stay and beleives he can turn it around, we will only take something valuable for him otherwise take the risk on him growing up from the realisation we don't think of highly of him as he does himself.
Mason Cox - Sydney were looking hard at him, met him earlier in the year but the Hickey move has probably made that no longer, sneaky chance late still but they were the only suitor. Have verbally agreed to stretching his contract if he stays, Collingwood and Mason both happy for him to stay but if we can get a future pick and he can get a longer better deal at Sydney both see it as win win. He comes from the US, he understands that Sport is a business more then any other player so while he loves the club, he aint getting paid like this ever again so he's happy if we can move him to a club who can give him more.
Interesting to hear his contract isn't $900k x 5. If Collingwood are only paying one year, second round pick come on down.
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